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kris kringle by winz
Nov 09, 2009 (5:54 pm)
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GM products? What's that saying, there's a sucker born every min.
Give me a Honda any day.
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Daewoo Lacrosse anyone? by anythngbutgm
Nov 10, 2009 (1:01 pm)
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General Motors is no stranger to badge engineering – with not a single of its four remaining core brands able to claim a completely unique product offering – but our spy photographer have just spotted what may be the most egregious example in recent memory – the Daewoo LaCrosse.
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GM cars unique to one of their 4 brands by elias
Nov 10, 2009 (2:15 pm)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Nov 10, 2009 1:01 pm)

isn't corvette unique to chevrolet, for 2010? (will there be a 2010 XLR?)
What about camaro? isn't it a completely unique offering among the 4 brands?
 
also, it's been a few hours without anyone posting "GM sux, I prefer Honda". what slackers!
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Re: GM cars unique to one of their 4 brands [elias] by oldcem
Nov 10, 2009 (9:01 pm)
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Replying to: elias (Nov 10, 2009 2:15 pm)

OK - I'll chime in. Having been burnt by 2 bad Hondas, I now drive a Saturn.
 
Regards:
Oldengineer
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it's payback time ... sometime by steve_ HOST
Nov 10, 2009 (10:32 pm)
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"Whitacre said there's a strong sense of urgency inside the automaker to repay the billions GM owes in government loans.
 
"I can't tell you when (we'll pay it back) but it'll be sooner than you think," Whitacre told a political science student who asked when the company would repay taxpayers."
 
GM's Whitacre: A Sense of Urgency to Repay Taxpayer Money (AutoObserver)
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Re: GM cars unique to one of their 4 brands [elias] by m4d_cow
Nov 11, 2009 (3:04 am)
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Replying to: elias (Nov 10, 2009 2:15 pm)

Well, you can start by answering this question: How many models are unique for each brand compared to the twinned/cloned ones?
 
I see CTS, STS, Camaro, G8, Corvette as unique to each brand, but the others?
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Re: GM cars unique to one of their 4 brands [m4d_cow] by elias
Nov 11, 2009 (4:55 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 11, 2009 3:04 am)

4ngry cow, seems like we have answered most of that question. How about that GMC little-pickup-truck, Canyon/Colorado - is that available with chevy badge too?
 
The meta-question in this forum appears to be how uniqueness-to-a-single-GM-brand will affect new models and market share - what do you think about that?
 
By having a Caddy version "Escalade" - doesn't GM make big-$ from folks willing to pay for extra plastic panels and shiny chrome-looking plastic bling on a Suburban?
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Re: GM cars unique to one of their 4 brands [oldcem] by ingvar
Nov 11, 2009 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: oldcem (Nov 10, 2009 9:01 pm)

OK - I'll chime in. Having been burnt by 2 bad Hondas, I now drive a Saturn.
Same for me, no more Hondas Riding German "horse"
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Re: GM cars unique to one of their 4 brands [elias] by british_rover
Nov 11, 2009 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: elias (Nov 10, 2009 2:15 pm)

Even when the XLR was being built I wouldn't call it a rebadge of the Vette.
 
The G5 and the Cobalt were badge engineering.
 
The XLR and the Vette aren't. They use platform sharing. All unique body work for both models and all unique powertrain for both models. Wasn't the XLR only avaliable as a hardtop convertible?
 
If someone thinks the XLR and the Vette are badge engineering then Audi and VWs whole line is also badge engineering by the same standard. Hey you could say some Bentleys are just badge engineered Audis using that standard.
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Re: GM cars unique to one of their 4 brands [oldcem] by andre1969
Nov 11, 2009 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: oldcem (Nov 10, 2009 9:01 pm)

OK - I'll chime in. Having been burnt by 2 bad Hondas, I now drive a Saturn.
 
I have some friends, a married couple, who were burned by a 1994 Civic. And I'm convinced that the reason the car was so bad was because I recommended it to them! At the time, they wanted a small, economical car, and I figured it was the best thing going at the time. After about 4 years and 80-90,000 miles, it had blown two head gaskets and needed a/c work.
 
They ended up replacing it with a Saturn S-series. This was in the fall of '98, so it could've been a '99 or leftover '98. I don't know how that worked out for them, though. I haven't seen them in awhile, but the last time I drove past their house, maybe a year or so ago, they had an '03-07 style Corolla. That might not have been an indication of the S-series being a bad car, though. As I recall, the replacement Ion was a bit of a disappointment, and turned off a lot of Saturn owners, so it could've just been that it was time for a new car, they didn't like the Ion, still felt burned by Honda over that Civic, so they tried a Corolla.
 
How's that Aura been holding up for you? I liked 'em when they first came out, and would still consider one if I was in the market for a car.

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