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Re: Hello out there... [lemko] by plekto
Nov 08, 2009 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 08, 2009 10:53 am)

Always get the CXS/Super. Much much better than the others.
 
Get the CXS Super, the touring package, and ambient lighting.. Don't get the Xenon lights/HUD - don't work much better and are more expensive to replace). Skip all of the other options.
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Re: Pricing really bad? [dieselone] by andre1969
Nov 08, 2009 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 07, 2009 8:32 pm)

I have a friend who bought a 2009 Civic over the summer. I think it was an EX-L model? Leather seats, sunroof, alloys, etc. I think it's fully loaded except for Nav. He said it ended up costing him about $20,000, out the door, with tax, tags, title, everything.
 
And I remember last year, one of my officemates bought a 2008 Accord. I think he got a total stripper model...LX sedan, I want to say. IIRC it was around $20K. And for a stripper, it wasn't bad. Still had an automatic, ABS, folding rear seat. I tihnk it had a pull-down armrest back there too. Nice sound system. He also bought it late in the year though, like August I think. And within a few months decided he wanted more car, so he traded for a fully-loaded 2009 V-6 model.
 
In my opinion, the Accord is more car than the Malibu. Not to say the Malibu is a bad car...I think the current model is pretty good. But the Accord has just grown up so much it's crazy! I'd expect to pay more for an Accord than a comparably equipped Malibu...even without the perceived quality adantage/resale value of Honda.
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Re: Hello out there... [lemko] by andre1969
Nov 08, 2009 (2:48 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 08, 2009 10:53 am)

They do offer a color called "midnight blue metallic" on the 2010 LaCrosse. I'm not sure how close it is to "sapphire blue"; probably similar.
 
I still haven't seen a LaCrosse in its natural habitat yet. Just what we saw at the auto shows.
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Re: Hello out there... [andre1969] by berri
Nov 08, 2009 (5:25 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 08, 2009 2:48 pm)

Midnight blue is very dark. I wonder if saphire blue is more medium. I had something like that on a 300 rental with a light tan or beige interior, it was actually pretty sharp looking.
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Re: Pricing really bad? [andre1969] by dieselone
Nov 08, 2009 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 08, 2009 2:44 pm)

In my opinion, the Accord is more car than the Malibu. Not to say the Malibu is a bad car...I think the current model is pretty good. But the Accord has just grown up so much it's crazy! I'd expect to pay more for an Accord than a comparably equipped Malibu...even without the perceived quality adantage/resale value of Honda.
 
I agree. I'm not a Honda homer, but my dad's 09 Accord EX-L v6 is unbelievably nice for what he paid for it. He got it for 26k, and the only thing it doesn't have is Nav. The powertrain is unbelievably smooth, and the fit-n-finish is flawless for a car in that price range. I don't think the Malibu is in the same league, but that's my opinion.
 
I get a kick of the Chevy commercial that pokes fun of Honda because they make lawnmowers. I guess GM just doesn't get it, I think Honda puts more effort into a lawn mower than GM does into a car.
 
On a serious note, the fact that Honda makes great products in every category, whether it's a lawn mower, generator, outboard marine engine, jetski, motorcycle, and ATV, or whatever else they make is very impressive. I've driven honda's 225hp outboard that is basically the same 3.5 v6 found in an Accord and it's unbelievable how smooth and composed it runs and it can easily handle running full throttle at over 6000 rpm for hours at a time. It doesn't even sound like it's working. That's why you almost always see nothing but Honda's powering any government agency boat.
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Re: Pricing really bad? [dieselone] by m4d_cow
Nov 08, 2009 (9:59 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 08, 2009 6:54 pm)

True. The commercial makes me laugh and at the same time, makes me dislike GM even more. What kind of both ignorant and condescending ad is that.....
 
PS: you forgot to mention Asimo, currently one of, if not the, best human-like robot out there.
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Re: Pricing really bad? [m4d_cow] by dieselone
Nov 09, 2009 (4:49 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 08, 2009 9:59 pm)

PS: you forgot to mention Asimo, currently one of, if not the, best human-like robot out there.
 
I completely forgot about ASIMO.
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Re: Hello out there... [berri] by andre1969
Nov 09, 2009 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: berri (Nov 08, 2009 5:25 pm)

I think you're right about that. I found this pic of a blue LaCrosse (warning...HUGE picture!) Kind of medium/dark, but nowhere near midnight. And seems to have sort of a glow to it. Lemko, is this the color of your wife's LaCrosse?
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Re: Pricing really bad? [m4d_cow] by lemko
Nov 09, 2009 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 08, 2009 9:59 pm)

What's so great about it? It's only Cartman in disguise!
 

 
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Re: Hello out there... [andre1969] by lemko
Nov 09, 2009 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 09, 2009 5:25 am)

Yes, that's it!

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