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8455 messages, Last post on Nov 26, 2009 at 9:11 AM
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2009 8:50 am) We are setting a really really bad precedent here with the things we have allowed, even helped, GM to do. Not to mention, have paid for through the nose with taxpayer money. Banks and corporations will forever expect to be given a free pass by the government whenever they get into trouble, and really with what we did for GM and Chrysler (and AIG) why wouldn't they? It will certainly keep me out of GM and Chrysler products for life, although I may be tempted by the 500 Abarth next year if that makes it here.
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 06, 2009 7:41 am) 
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BO did the bailout as a "social medicine" thing. So many lives affected by such a mass casualty of losing so many GM jobs. I agree, though, that sets a schmaltzy example of what the Federal government is really for. We've pretty much beat that dead horse up ad naseum on Edmunds already, IMO. GM should've been allowed to fail on it's own. Same with Chrysler. Neither has really done me so well that I would cry many tears over their demise. I have purchased several Fords though and would miss them a lot more. |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 06, 2009 6:14 am) May the best car win...  Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 06, 2009 11:17 am) Um - what exactly is so easy to see that leads you to that conclusion? - Ray Apparently 'easy to con'.....
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Replying to: rayainsw (Nov 06, 2009 11:37 am) There are recent cases such as the botched release of the first Camaro that was plagued with problems. The LaCrosse would have been the same except they admitted they needed to hold it up to fix some "fit and finish" issues. Axing the G8 was brilliant, continuing 5 brands and cloaking the "war of the clones" (Eqinox/Terrain/SRX - Acadia/Traverse/Enclave), speaks with a forked tongue from my pov. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...  Regards, OW |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 06, 2009 6:14 am) So, what Japanese company gives a 7, 8 or 10 year warranty? And if you buy a 2 yr old used Korean car, do you get to keep the warranty? |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 06, 2009 6:14 am) There you go Scroll down to the warranty tab about 2/3s of the way down. Honda, Toyota, Nissan and Mazda all give 3 year 36,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty and a five year 60,000 mile powertrain warranty. The same as Ford by the way. Corrosion warranty is the same across the board. Ford gives a longer road side assistance program then anyone else. I just added Subaru in there for the legacy. They have the same warranty as all the others. link title Luxury car comparison all the Japanese makes and Caddy. None of them have a 7 year warranty. They all have six year 70,000 mile power train warranties but caddy is five year 100,000 miles. Depends on how you drive if it is better to have the one extra year or the 30,000 miles. |
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Replying to: british_rover (Nov 06, 2009 2:51 pm) It's true that Hyundai-Kia's 10/100 powertrain warranty drops to 5/60 for second owners, but that's still in line with the other Asian companies' nonluxury models. |
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Replying to: british_rover (Oct 28, 2009 11:17 am) Obviously the warranty company is the only one with real skin in the game. Sure if CR gets something really wrong they might get a dinged reputation or lose a few subscribers but they won't lose any real revenue. Your using the same ridiculously idiotic argument that idiots used before to claim Big 3 resale values were almost or just as good as foreign cars. They kept pointing to the lease guides that supposedly could predict "resale value" because the banks leasing guides had "skin in the game" as you say. So why did Chrysler and GM/GMAC lose so much money in their financial divisions? The leasing values were supposed to be infallible? Why did they stop leasing cars? It is because they were falsely predicting artificially inflatedly high values for big 3 vehicles, just like the appraisers of houses were providing falsely inflated appraisals of homes. It's all a big fraud. JD Powers is nothing but a paid for advertisement and is 100% worthless, also, they are often dead wrong. CR is the only scientifically sound source of reliability information, and has been historically accutate with real people's real experiences. MSN autos is worthless too, as they seem to follow JD POwers pay-for-performance ratings method. I don't want the spin, I want the truth, and CR is the only one I trust.
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