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Re: Opel stays [steve_] by fezo
Nov 03, 2009 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 03, 2009 5:00 pm)

Smartest move I've seen in a long time from GM.
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Re: Opel stays [steve_] by imidazol97
Nov 03, 2009 (6:06 pm)
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RElated to GM:
 
Is the symbol for OPEL with a horizontal lightening bolt really dorky looking? Or is it just my impression of it and others think it looks modern, cool, up-to-date?
 
I assume the other is VAuxhall with the bird going through the circle. It looks like an old Pontiac hood ornament from the 50s.
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Re: Opel stays [imidazol97] by steve_ HOST
Nov 03, 2009 (6:27 pm)
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The one on the left is an Opel one from 1935 I think. I got it from Wikipedia. The one on the left should be the current one, but the link talks about them changing it again.
 
Ah, it's the "Zeppelin" Opel logo from 1937. link
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Re: Opel stays [imidazol97] by andre1969
Nov 03, 2009 (6:56 pm)
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Is the symbol for OPEL with a horizontal lightening bolt really dorky looking? Or is it just my impression of it and others think it looks modern, cool, up-to-date?
 
I always thought it looked like some kind of logo that you'd see in a low-budget 1970's sci-fi movie. Maybe Roger Corman designed it?
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Re: Opel stays [steve_] by m4d_cow
Nov 04, 2009 (4:47 am)
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Hoo... what's this, GM actually making a smart choice for once!!!
 
It's only natural though. Without Opel GM is practically doomed.
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Here's an interesting evolution... by lemko
Nov 04, 2009 (5:53 am)
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...of Audi's logo:
 
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Re: Here's an interesting evolution... [lemko] by m4d_cow
Nov 04, 2009 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 04, 2009 5:53 am)

Interesting. Can you see the irony? It all started as a union of 4 separate, distinct companies, and then slowly each began to lose it's identities until nothing is left but the rings that mark the union.
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Re: Here's an interesting evolution... [m4d_cow] by ingvar
Nov 04, 2009 (8:35 am)
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But now this unionized company selling non-premium cars for premium money on US market (audi a3, audi a4 2.0T)
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Re: Here's an interesting evolution... [m4d_cow] by tlong
Nov 04, 2009 (8:48 am)
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Can you see the irony? It all started as a union of 4 separate, distinct companies, and then slowly each began to lose it's identities until nothing is left but the rings that mark the union.
 
The irony is GM's. If Audi were GM they would have *retained* each of those 5 company names, putting out rebadges of the A3, A4, A5, A6, A8, S4, R8, Q5, Q7, TT, etc. under each name, for a total of over 40 models. They would have 5 sets of redundant dealerships who competed with each other. Then their reps would come on Edmunds and claim that the brand structure did not add any cost to their operation and that they brought in more buyers in different demographics that way.
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the Germans aren't happy by steve_ HOST
Nov 04, 2009 (8:50 am)
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"General Motors' (GM) decision to hang on to its European car unit Opel, including Vauxhall, was welcomed in the UK but met with anger in Germany.
 
German leaders and labour unions had favoured a sale, to Canadian car parts maker Magna, as the best way to save German jobs as it included a guarantee that no German factory would be closed."
 
German fury over GM Opel U-turn (BBC)

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