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8456 messages, Last post on Nov 26, 2009 at 4:07 PM
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Replying to: dieselone (Oct 31, 2009 5:13 pm) It's a tall order but they have to get it right this time. Howie Long ain't gonna cut it.
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Oct 31, 2009 12:37 pm) Seems that the ultimate measure of success would be increasing their market share, at least for those vehicles vs. the competition. If the vehicles would be critically acclaimed, but still not sell that well, then that doesn't really help GM even if their vehicles are quite good. The real question is what will be the GM perception by the public in the future - is it better due to better products, about the same, or worse due to the bailouts/Ch11/etc.? The "brand equity" of GM/Chevy/Buick/Caddy will be very important. As for leadership, Fritz seems to be holding no punches. For all the criticisims about the Bankruptcy, paring down the lineup, and government cash infusuions. He has steadied the ship. 9 months ago, the leadership seemed to be coming up with new ideas left and right, panicked, and just seeing what will stick, trying to convince the government that they could succeed, just give us money and time. Agree that Fritz looks like he's doing pretty well. But he was dealt a pretty crappy hand and it's a tough situation. Plus he still has the UAW ready to strangle the company if the show signs of life, like they have done with Ford in the last couple of days. And Ford is not even making money yet!
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Replying to: tlong (Oct 31, 2009 11:38 am) Uh, honestly I'm not convinced. New leadership is still a question mark as we've yet to see any real achievement. But looking at the new models they come up with, I'm getting mixed reactions. I still think Buick, despite it's costumers' loyalty, will still lose money. And since the product planners still can't refrain themselves from chruning out "twins", they're still not efficient enough in my book. GM's plan to sell it's divisions went haywire. Hummer didn't sell for as much as expected (not even close). Saab's fate afaik is still in question (and the new 9-5 is way overpriced). Opel, GM's ultimate source for higher technology, is sold off. Pontiac is doomed and the company pulled the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard: that it will re-ship the leftover G8s to be sold in Australia. Hello???? Australian cars have right side steering, meaning the cars will have to be re-modified for Aussie market, just how much will that cost??? One more thing, we still need to wait and see what happens with the Volt project. Sure, production is already confirmed, but how about the buyers? To make it worse, people still have doubts over GM and Chrysler. They keep losing sales to Ford. Inventories are piling up.That's a sign already. Alas, many of these people still don't forgive them for the bailout. So the restructuring might work, but the rest is still all over the place IMO.
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Replying to: tlong (Oct 31, 2009 5:42 pm) They made the move on Ford already?!?!? 
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 01, 2009 12:30 am) This is something I don't totally get. We would now have to travel a good 30 miles to so much look at a Chevy when this guy goes. We have half a million people in county! Meanwhile, right in town we have Ford, L-M, NIssan, Honda, Chrysler, Dodge, Buick-GMC and Hyundai. What are the odds of me looking at a Chevy next time? |
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Replying to: fezo (Nov 01, 2009 6:15 am) 
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 01, 2009 12:30 am) Yep, the UAW overwhelmingly voted down more concessions to Ford. It's going to be a fun 2011 at Ford when the current contract expires. steve_, "United Automobile Workers of America (UAW)" #16502, 31 Oct 2009 5:46 pm
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 01, 2009 9:34 am) Now Ford is in the same boat as GM and forget about C which is really going to be a shell Italian auto company in the U.S. Is the UAW not to blame? Need to look in the mirror and face it this time. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 01, 2009 9:48 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 01, 2009 9:48 am) Well at least those idiots "stuck it to the man!". Hopefully WalMart will do well so there will be more jobs for the unemployed UAW. There are a lot of floors that need sweeping, and don't forget the coveted greeter positions! On another subject, anybody else finding the "Emotorcons" missing on these pages?
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