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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 29, 2009 11:46 am) I'm not sure how many miles it has on it. Probably somewhere between 180-200K. A few years back, he was doing an easy 150-160 miles per day, if not more. But nowadays I think it's down to 90-100 per day, and he had to cut back to 3 days per week because of health problems. Overall it's been a good car. My mechanic, who specializes in Mopars, even swears by Corollas. Whereas the Mopars sometimes get sworn at.  I think the two most expensive repairs he had were the water pump and catalytic converter, but both of them were well north of 100,000 miles. Now his '97 Silverado, in comparison, has been a bit of an embarrassment. Two transmission rebuilds, one around 70K, the other around 108K. Brake work galore. Water pump. Some other odds and ends I'm probably forgetting. And now, the fuel pump or whatever stranded him today. And while it's only a sample of one on one, comparing it to my '85 Silverado, which has been in the family since new, the '85 has been the better truck! |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Oct 29, 2009 12:54 pm) Yes, but none of those brands except Hummer HAD any of the BOF trucks! So as a percentage of the total number of GM models, BOFs make up more of the total of GM offerings now than they did before S, P, H, and Saab took their final bow. There is no need to continue the GMC line of light-duty passenger vehicles when there is so much overlap with Chevy, and what with gas prices and new CAFE rules and whatnot, GMC is just a boat anchor on the company. On the Toyota side, it is inscrutable to me that Toyota decided in the last 18 months to revise and continue both the Land Cruiser and 4Runner lines as BOF trucks. They will soon be in a class of one, but not for the right reasons, and it will hurt them in the long run. |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 29, 2009 1:03 pm) For the record my GMs have never had a catalytic converter go bad, I haven't replaced a water pump since my 1980 Cutlass 260 cu. in. 1981 Skylark 1985 Skyhawk 1987 Century 1989 Century 1993 leSabre (150K) 1998 leSabre (currently 170K) 2003 leSabre (currently 100K)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 29, 2009 3:26 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 29, 2009 1:03 pm) That pretty much describes my '00 Suburban, an embarrassment! No question those l460e transmissions are junk. I don't have enough fingers to count all the people I know that have had these transmissions rebuilt at low miles, I know serval guys who've had them rebuilt 2-3 times by 100-150k miles. My transmission guy had one die in his 06 Tahoe at 2,500 miles. Pathetic considering how long it's been around. Now the brakes were about the only area I didn't have a problem, yep the fuel pump. Another well known GM problem with the trucks. You can hear most late '90s thru early 2000 model GM trucks coming down the road with how loud those fuel pumps whine, well until they don't anymore and your stranded. Been there, done that. Is it any wonder that so many people describe their GM ownership experience in past tense? |
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Replying to: almatti (Oct 29, 2009 9:50 am) Though Detroiters cringe at the mere mention of this, Toyota and Honda still have the most reliable models on the market. Of the 48 with top reliability scores, 26 are from those two companies, based on consumer surveys turned in and tests the magazine performs. Ford isn't far behind. About 90 percent of its products have "average" or "better reliability" and the Fusion/Mercury Milan beat the Accord and Toyota Camry for the second straight year. GM had 20 of its 48 vehicles score "average." Chrysler, well they're not even in the same ballpark right now. That's not good enough for the long haul. What will truly make a difference is when you can sell your used Ford or GM car for a third of the purchase price. Then we'll know that reliability not only matters, but it also pays. At the end of the day, that's where we are, like it or not. Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Oct 30, 2009 12:11 pm) What will truly make a difference is when that 2-3 year old certified GM or Ford car you bought for 2/3 the list price means you only lose half as much in depreciation.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 29, 2009 7:30 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 29, 2009 8:35 am)
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