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G8 lives on!!!!!! by cooterbfd
Jul 12, 2009 (4:18 am)
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http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/11/lutz-pontiac-g8-to-continue-as-chevy-caprice-- in-u-s-z28-likel/
 
Meet the new Chevy Caprice.
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Re: G8 lives on!!!!!! [cooterbfd] by m4d_cow
Jul 12, 2009 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 12, 2009 4:18 am)

While it's a good thing that the G8 survives, why the heck change the name to Caprice? Just call it Impala darn it...
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Re: G8 lives on!!!!!! [m4d_cow] by cooterbfd
Jul 12, 2009 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 12, 2009 6:07 am)

I dunno. I guess that the Impala will live on as FWD. But, notice that this announcement came after it was announced that Bob Lutz would stay on and not retire.
 
Say what you will about GM, but they do seem to have some pretty darn good executives in their fold. Outside of Bob, you have Ed Wellburn, Tom Shephens, and Mark LaNeve that seem to be pretty sharp. While I was disappointed to see a bankruptcy, Fritz Henderson seems to be a no nonsense guy. Right from the beginning, he seemed to have the attitude of "Enough is enough. Let's get this (bankruptcy) done and over with, get it behind us, and then get on with the business of making cars".
 
Now that the bankruptcy is done and over, maybe they can make some great cars instead of pussyfooting around with all the troubles they had.
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Re: G8 lives on!!!!!! [m4d_cow] by circlew
Jul 12, 2009 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 12, 2009 6:07 am)

Well, I agree it should be the Impala (SS), as stated previously, but I will take it as a Caprice anytime. At least this is one positive step that makes a lot of sense.
 
So far, so good...
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: G8 lives on!!!!!! [m4d_cow] by andre1969
Jul 12, 2009 (7:16 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 12, 2009 6:07 am)

While it's a good thing that the G8 survives, why the heck change the name to Caprice? Just call it Impala darn it...
 
My guess is that GM would never be able to import very many of the Aussie cars to really turn it into a mass-market type of vehicle. Still, a move like that would return some dignity to the Impala name. Maybe call the V-6 version just Impala and the V-8 Impala SS. Caprice, to me, conjures up images of a car that puts more emphasis on luxury than performance...although there have been some pretty potent Caprices over the years.
 
GM still probably needs a large-ish, cheap, fairly economical car for the mass market and fleet buyers. The current Impala does that job fairly well. Maybe they could just rename it "Bel Air", to free up the Impala nameplate for something better.
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Re: G8 lives on!!!!!! [cooterbfd] by bumpy
Jul 12, 2009 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 12, 2009 6:23 am)

Say what you will about GM, but they do seem to have some pretty darn good executives in their fold.
 
Paraphrasing a bit, but there is no such thing as good management with bad results, and bankruptcy is about as awful a result as a company can have. Clear the decks, then we'll see what can be done with the remnants of GM.
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Re: gm transmissions [jae5] by andre1969
Jul 12, 2009 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: jae5 (Jul 10, 2009 10:30 am)

In reading the article is does not say it was available on any 4-door, nor is there any mention of a manual.
 
Agreed, it's a safe bet that no turbo ever went in a 4-door G-body. At least, not at the factory. The last 4-door Regal was in 1984, and that year you could only get it with a 110 hp 3.8-2bbl, and if you wanted even the slightest hint of performance, you opted for the 125 hp 4.1-4bbl. Motortrend tested a 1982 Bonneville with that engine, and got 0-60 in a blistering 12.9 seconds.
 
It irritated me a bit that Buick let these cars languish. At least with the other divisions, in 1983 they started putting 305's in Grand Prix/Bonnevilles and Monte Carlo/Malibus again, and Olds started giving the Cutlass Supreme the 307 once more. But Buick wouldn't put a 307 under a Regal's hood until 1986. While the turbo engine was cool, it was limited production. So for a few years with the Regal, you either got something many cheap imports could dust off, or a Corvette killer, but no middle ground.
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I hope......... by carnaught
Jul 12, 2009 (8:24 am)
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.........that the pictures of the new Caprice are bogus Photoshop ones because I'm not impressed. The side looks like a Malibu, the grill and the taillights look like they took old Chevy fronts and rears and tacked them on.
 
Why not Chevi-cize the G8 it by taking it in an evolutionary direction? They can achieve a retro look without looking like they're dipping into the parts bin of yester-year.
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Re: I hope......... [carnaught] by fintail
Jul 12, 2009 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: carnaught (Jul 12, 2009 8:24 am)

Indeed, lose the 5 year old Malibu rear end. "Retro" shouldn't mean 2004...not a vintage year for GM.
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Andre by m4d_cow
Jul 12, 2009 (9:00 am)
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Caprice, to me, conjures up images of a car that puts more emphasis on luxury than performance...although there have been some pretty potent Caprices over the years.
 
We're thinking the exact same thing!!!!!!!!
 
Imagine the G8 with V8 wearing the badge "Impala-SS". With all that performance and comfort it'll revive Impala's reputation in no time....... although Bel-Air seems like a good alternative, but seriously not Caprice.

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