GM News, New Models and Market Share

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#6888 of 8615 Re: when will they be lined up across the front of a dealers lot? [dave8697] by tlong Jul 10, 2009 (11:27 am)
Replying to: dave8697 (Jul 10, 2009 8:46 am) Most importantly for GM, Camaros are selling faster than the factory can make them. That's the sort of problem any carmaker could use. I suspect that's the typical aura of a brand new car that has pent-up demand. Suspicion that this demand will satisfy after 6 months and then let's see what the sustained sales look like. Don't think it will last but hopefully that is incorrect! Replies to this message: dave8697 (Jul 10, 2009 9:32 pm)
#6889 of 8615 Question about GM and the C4C by gagrice Jul 10, 2009 (4:26 pm)
Which made in America GM vehicles will qualify for the $4500 voucher from an 18 MPG Clunker? Replies to this message: steve_ (Jul 10, 2009 4:31 pm) gagrice (Jul 10, 2009 5:20 pm) steve_ (Jul 10, 2009 6:50 pm) and 2 more...
#6890 of 8615 Re: Question about GM and the C4C [gagrice] by steve_ HOST Jul 10, 2009 (4:31 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jul 10, 2009 4:26 pm) Assuming all GM vehicles sold in NA are made in NA, here's a list of vehicles eligible for a voucher (not sure if there's a list that's limited to the $4,500 voucher since that partly depends on the trade-in I think). Cash for Clunkers - Eligible New Cars You'll have to click through for GMC, Chevy, Buick, etc. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 10, 2009 5:20 pm) steve_ (Jul 10, 2009 6:50 pm) gagrice (Jul 11, 2009 6:08 am) and 1 more...
#6891 of 8615 Re: Question about GM and the C4C [steve_] by gagrice Jul 10, 2009 (5:20 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Jul 10, 2009 4:31 pm) I am going on the basis of an 18 MPG Clunker and a 10 MPG improvement in mileage to get the $4500. That shortens that list by a bunch. Though from truck to truck you don't even need to improve mileage. If you trade in a cat 3 truck it has to be for a cat 3 truck, SUV or Van the way I read Cars.gov. Replies to this message: steve_ (Jul 10, 2009 6:50 pm) gagrice (Jul 11, 2009 6:08 am) steve_ (Jul 11, 2009 7:11 am)
#6892 of 8615 Re: Question about GM and the C4C [gagrice] by steve_ HOST Jul 10, 2009 (6:50 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jul 10, 2009 5:20 pm) The way I read it is that you can trade a truck in for a passenger car, even a category 3 work truck. "The value of the credit for the purchase or lease of a new passenger car depends upon the difference between the combined fuel economy of the vehicle that is traded in and that of the new vehicle that is purchased or leased. If the new vehicle has a combined fuel economy that is at least 4, but less than 10, miles per gallon higher than the traded-in vehicle, the credit is $3,500. If the new vehicle has a combined fuel economy value that is at least 10 miles per gallon higher than the traded-in vehicle, the credit is $4,500." cars.gov The posters over in the Cash for Clunkers - Does it Work for You? discussion probably have it figured out. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 11, 2009 6:08 am) steve_ (Jul 11, 2009 7:11 am)
#6893 of 8615 Re: when will they be lined up across the front of a dealers lot? [tlong] by dave8697 Jul 10, 2009 (9:32 pm)
Replying to: tlong (Jul 10, 2009 11:27 am) way to put a spin on good news that suits you. You definitely see the glass half empty. My guess is you also think the Camaro isn't attractive and the Solara is.
#6894 of 8615 Re: Question about GM and the C4C [steve_] by gagrice Jul 11, 2009 (6:08 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Jul 10, 2009 6:50 pm) This from Cars.gov says no to work trucks being traded for passenger cars. work trucks may only be traded in for the purchase of a category 2 truck or another category 3 truck that is of similar size or smaller than the traded-in vehicle. Finally, the Act provides only for a $3,500 credit for trading in a work truck. The CARS Act limits the amount of funds that can be used to provide credits for purchases or leases of work trucks. Only 7.5 percent of the funds appropriated for the program may be used for credits for work trucks. Once that limit is reached, NHTSA will stop making payments for these transactions. NHTSA will keep the public informed as to the funds that remain available for these credits. If you are dumping an old work truck, better get with it. They are only going to allow 7.5% of the funds for that purpose. That would include the Excursion someone was trading in. Replies to this message: steve_ (Jul 11, 2009 7:11 am)
#6895 of 8615 Re: Question about GM and the C4C [gagrice] by steve_ HOST Jul 11, 2009 (7:11 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jul 11, 2009 6:08 am) Thanks, missed that. At least my "truck" is a category 2. I think.... sheesh.
#6896 of 8615 Gee... by m4d_cow Jul 11, 2009 (11:21 am)
(looking at all the news) If that really is the best GM can offer I guess it'd be another foreign for me when I return home...... Replies to this message: circlew (Jul 11, 2009 12:13 pm)
#6897 of 8615 Re: Gee... [m4d_cow] by circlew Jul 11, 2009 (12:13 pm)
Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 11, 2009 11:21 am) Meet the new boss.....same as the old boss... We don't get fooled again. Regards, OW

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