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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [bpizzuti] by anythngbutgm
Jul 08, 2009 (4:34 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 08, 2009 2:25 am)

Maybe they're gonna use the same 2 foot tall H-Y-B-R-I-D stickers on the sides and trunk that the hybrid SUV's use. With the pathetic sales of the SUV's, there should be a bunch of those kicking around.
 
Not a fan of Motorweek (dry, blah, lifeless automotive reviews IMO), but they had a review of the new Fusion hybrid this week. Wow, 0-60 in a very respectable 7.9 seconds and returns 41/39? along with bluetooth, Navi, leather, moonroof, and a really cool backlit LED dash. I think that car just jumped to the top of my list if I were buying a midsize family sedan/commuter. Only thing I would change would be the dull looking alloys...
 
Ford did a bang up job with it
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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [bpizzuti] by gagrice
Jul 08, 2009 (4:43 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 08, 2009 2:25 am)

That is also unlikely. Last I read Toyota has a strangle hold on suppliers of some of the key parts. They dribble them out to Ford. I don't see Buick making any real inroads in the hybrid market. Unless they just build a handful like Nissan does. Hardly enough to save Buick or GM.
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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [anythngbutgm] by andre1969
Jul 08, 2009 (5:55 am)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jul 08, 2009 4:34 am)

Not a fan of Motorweek (dry, blah, lifeless automotive reviews IMO), but they had a review of the new Fusion hybrid this week.
 
Well it's public television, whaddya expect?! That 0-60 in 7.9 seconds catches my attention, though, and is a nice complement to the 41/39. I definitely like the Fusion, and if I was in the market for a new car, it would probably be one of my top considerations. I'd probably just go with the 4-cyl though, as I don't log enough miles to warrant a hybrid, IMO.
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New GM compact by xrunner2
Jul 08, 2009 (6:07 am)
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Saw article in WSJ recently that said:
 
GM had to choose between 3 plants to mfr new compact: WISC, TENN, MICH.
 
GM decided on existing GM plant in Michigan rather than use TENN plant that has state of art painting process/facility costing hundreds of millions. MICH plant will have to be updated with this new painting process. Union and Mich Dems being paid back for their Obama support. Tenn has 2 Republican Senators. UAW agreed to starting pay of $14/hr vs $28/hr standard for building this new compact car.
 
New car will be out as 2011 model and will be lucky to break even.
 
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Do we taxpayers have any chance at all of GM paying us back.
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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [anythngbutgm] by circlew
Jul 08, 2009 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jul 08, 2009 4:34 am)

About Time a U.S. company made a great hybrid. Sounds good and I will check it out.
 
Thanks!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [andre1969] by lemko
Jul 08, 2009 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 08, 2009 5:55 am)

I was more fascinated with their review of the Pontiac G8 GXP. I hope it gets to live on as an Impala SS. Better yet, make it a Buick GSX!!!
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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [cooterbfd] by steve_ HOST
Jul 08, 2009 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 08, 2009 2:20 am)

LaCrosse hybrid? We're still trying to figure out when the Lexus RX 450h is going to hit the dealers, and that hit the auto shows last November.
 
Your link isn't working for me but Motor Authority quotes Wards quoting GM that one is in the works. There's one in China I guess.
 
The Fusion hybrid does look nice. It's a bit pricey and you lose the trunk pass-through because of the battery pack behind the rear seat. Nice mpg though, and the reviewers like driving it better than the other hybrids.
 
GM News is thin this week. There is this for those heading out on your summer vacation:
 
Cadillac Ranch
 
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Re: New GM compact [xrunner2] by bpizzuti
Jul 08, 2009 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jul 08, 2009 6:07 am)

Actually, yes, because break-even is an improvement from the severe losses they've always taken on compacts just to meet CAFE standards (and when you get down to it, it might have been cheaper to just take the CAFE hit).
 
If they can make it to break even, maybe they can actually get to the point of making money on small cars. This is an important thing to accomplish.
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gm transmissions by carstryke
Jul 08, 2009 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 08, 2009 9:25 am)

This is a little off topic but when did gm eliminate the majority of their manual transmissions, with the exception for the compact cars/light trucks/performance cars. Just curious thats all.
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Re: gm transmissions [carstryke] by bpizzuti
Jul 08, 2009 (5:06 pm)
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Replying to: carstryke (Jul 08, 2009 12:41 pm)

When they needed to meet CAFE standards and they realized manuals don't sell all that well outside a few niches. Auto-trannys can be programmed for max fuel economy: you'll notice these days they tend to get higher MPG ratings than manuals, right?

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