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Re: Buick sales may rebound [andre1969] by cooterbfd
Jul 06, 2009 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 06, 2009 6:35 am)

".....so the overall result was a bit of a hybrid of the two."
 
So, GM HAS been building hybrids all along!!!!
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [andre1969] by circlew
Jul 06, 2009 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 06, 2009 6:35 am)

Well, my Bro. got the '58 cheap....the '57 was too dear back then as well. The front protection was better than today's cars except no Air bags and no crumple zones...the radiator was toast in that wreck along with fenders against tires....but the bumper was only slightly bent while the pole broke into 3!
 
My Mom had the '56, bought new while my Bro. got the '58 17 years later.
 
You see. I was brought up on GM....
 
Regards,
OW
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Hybrid Lacrosse???? by cooterbfd
Jul 07, 2009 (12:54 pm)
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http://www.easycarblog.com/2009/07/2010-buick-lacrosse-to-feature-hybrid-power.h- tml/
 
No other info. Post dated TOMORROW, 7/8/09 at 12:18 am...
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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [cooterbfd] by gagrice
Jul 07, 2009 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 07, 2009 12:54 pm)

Hopefully they do not use the same hybrid drive train that is in the Malibu. That is a joke. It only gets a combined 29 MPG rating while the larger Ford Fusion hybrid is rated 39 MPG combined and owners are reporting 43 MPG combined.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [tlong] by m4d_cow
Jul 07, 2009 (11:32 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Jul 05, 2009 12:48 pm)

Uh, I'm not sure I ever said that, but nevermind.
 
Anyway, while I really agree with the secind part of your argument, I'm not sure that's the case with the first part. Bling overkill never infiltrate European cars because continental europeans find them tacky and corny. It's not a matter of reputation alone, its a matter of taste. I've heard a lot of comments from Europeans regarding the new Cadillacs (particularly the CTS), and the said the designs are actually nice and distinctive, but the chrome bathing kills all the appeal.
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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [gagrice] by cooterbfd
Jul 08, 2009 (2:20 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 07, 2009 5:58 pm)

I really don't know at this point. All I got was what I read in that little snippet. Maybe Steve can sic the Edmunds hounds on the story (hint, hint)
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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [gagrice] by bpizzuti
Jul 08, 2009 (2:25 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 07, 2009 5:58 pm)

Well, what are they going to use then? The two-mode system that provides 0 mpg gain? No way they're going to license Ford or Toyota's system.
 
The New GM...just like the Old GM, only newer.
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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [bpizzuti] by anythngbutgm
Jul 08, 2009 (4:34 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 08, 2009 2:25 am)

Maybe they're gonna use the same 2 foot tall H-Y-B-R-I-D stickers on the sides and trunk that the hybrid SUV's use. With the pathetic sales of the SUV's, there should be a bunch of those kicking around.
 
Not a fan of Motorweek (dry, blah, lifeless automotive reviews IMO), but they had a review of the new Fusion hybrid this week. Wow, 0-60 in a very respectable 7.9 seconds and returns 41/39? along with bluetooth, Navi, leather, moonroof, and a really cool backlit LED dash. I think that car just jumped to the top of my list if I were buying a midsize family sedan/commuter. Only thing I would change would be the dull looking alloys...
 
Ford did a bang up job with it
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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [bpizzuti] by gagrice
Jul 08, 2009 (4:43 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 08, 2009 2:25 am)

That is also unlikely. Last I read Toyota has a strangle hold on suppliers of some of the key parts. They dribble them out to Ford. I don't see Buick making any real inroads in the hybrid market. Unless they just build a handful like Nissan does. Hardly enough to save Buick or GM.
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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [anythngbutgm] by andre1969
Jul 08, 2009 (5:55 am)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jul 08, 2009 4:34 am)

Not a fan of Motorweek (dry, blah, lifeless automotive reviews IMO), but they had a review of the new Fusion hybrid this week.
 
Well it's public television, whaddya expect?! That 0-60 in 7.9 seconds catches my attention, though, and is a nice complement to the 41/39. I definitely like the Fusion, and if I was in the market for a new car, it would probably be one of my top considerations. I'd probably just go with the 4-cyl though, as I don't log enough miles to warrant a hybrid, IMO.

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