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Re: Buick sales may rebound [tlong] by lemko
Jul 06, 2009 (5:10 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Jul 05, 2009 12:48 pm)

Mercedes did copy one American styling element. Fintail?
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [andre1969] by lemko
Jul 06, 2009 (5:16 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 06, 2009 4:19 am)

There was an excellent article on styling 1970s cars in Collectible Automobile a few issues back. Apparently, it was a terrible time to be an automotive stylist with all the government mandates. I'd say GM handled the 5-mph bumper fiasco the best out of the Big Three. Those 5-mph bumper regs ruined a lot of previously attractive cars. Check out British sportscars with the 5-mph bumpers like the MG and Jaguar XKE. Yuck!
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [lemko] by circlew
Jul 06, 2009 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 06, 2009 5:16 am)

Should have gone with '58 Chevy bumpers...
 

 
My brother had one of these babies and was cut off out on L.I. and sliced a telephone pole in half as a result. Walked away unscathed but the beauty had to be junked.
 
He got a 1964 Malibu next!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [circlew] by andre1969
Jul 06, 2009 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 06, 2009 6:28 am)

That's a cool picture...you don't see the 2-door sedans that often anymore. I know where there's a '58 Chevy partly buried in the mud on a floodplain...probably been there since before my time. To this day, the bumpers on the car still look good, while the rest just crumbles into oblivion!
 
I've always heard conflicting stories though, on how well-built the '58 Chevies were. On one hand, they had that wasp-waisted X-frame, which you'd think would allow for more twisting, which would make for more rattles. And I'd also think it would fare pretty poorly in a t-bone wreck. But on the other hand, to account for the lack of side protection and the twisting, the body of the car was beefed up. So while the car was still body-on-frame, some Unibody techniques were applied to the body, so the overall result was a bit of a hybrid of the two.
 
I always thought the '58 Chevy was a good looking car. I know I'm in the minority here, but I actually prefer it to the '57.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [andre1969] by cooterbfd
Jul 06, 2009 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 06, 2009 6:35 am)

".....so the overall result was a bit of a hybrid of the two."
 
So, GM HAS been building hybrids all along!!!!
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [andre1969] by circlew
Jul 06, 2009 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 06, 2009 6:35 am)

Well, my Bro. got the '58 cheap....the '57 was too dear back then as well. The front protection was better than today's cars except no Air bags and no crumple zones...the radiator was toast in that wreck along with fenders against tires....but the bumper was only slightly bent while the pole broke into 3!
 
My Mom had the '56, bought new while my Bro. got the '58 17 years later.
 
You see. I was brought up on GM....
 
Regards,
OW
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Hybrid Lacrosse???? by cooterbfd
Jul 07, 2009 (12:54 pm)
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http://www.easycarblog.com/2009/07/2010-buick-lacrosse-to-feature-hybrid-power.h- tml/
 
No other info. Post dated TOMORROW, 7/8/09 at 12:18 am...
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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [cooterbfd] by gagrice
Jul 07, 2009 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 07, 2009 12:54 pm)

Hopefully they do not use the same hybrid drive train that is in the Malibu. That is a joke. It only gets a combined 29 MPG rating while the larger Ford Fusion hybrid is rated 39 MPG combined and owners are reporting 43 MPG combined.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [tlong] by m4d_cow
Jul 07, 2009 (11:32 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Jul 05, 2009 12:48 pm)

Uh, I'm not sure I ever said that, but nevermind.
 
Anyway, while I really agree with the secind part of your argument, I'm not sure that's the case with the first part. Bling overkill never infiltrate European cars because continental europeans find them tacky and corny. It's not a matter of reputation alone, its a matter of taste. I've heard a lot of comments from Europeans regarding the new Cadillacs (particularly the CTS), and the said the designs are actually nice and distinctive, but the chrome bathing kills all the appeal.
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Re: Hybrid Lacrosse???? [gagrice] by cooterbfd
Jul 08, 2009 (2:20 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 07, 2009 5:58 pm)

I really don't know at this point. All I got was what I read in that little snippet. Maybe Steve can sic the Edmunds hounds on the story (hint, hint)

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