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Re: Buick sales may rebound [cooterbfd] by andre1969
Jul 04, 2009 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 04, 2009 6:32 am)

What year is your Wildcat, again? Got any pics of it online?
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If the 2010 LaCrosse.... by tlong
Jul 04, 2009 (9:08 am)
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....had been a Chevy Impala instead, which car would sell more copies?
 
You take the LaCrosse, restyle it only slightly (grille, etc.) to be a Chevy, and market it as the new improved Impala (a la Malibu). Would that car get more sales than the Buick? IMHO the answer is YES. Which is why Buick is a mistake and one less division would lower GM's costs and increase their sales.
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Re: If the 2010 LaCrosse.... [tlong] by bpizzuti
Jul 04, 2009 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Jul 04, 2009 9:08 am)

You take the LaCrosse, restyle it only slightly (grille, etc.) to be a Chevy, and market it as the new improved Impala (a la Malibu). Would that car get more sales than the Buick? IMHO the answer is YES.
 
Unfortunately, that's because Impala is currently designated as fleet-fodder. Putting a LaCrosse relative in a fleet-fodder slot will hurt in the long run.
 
Impala really kinda sucks, but that's why it's perfect for fleet-fodder. Make the Chevy LaCrosse a Celebrity or Lumina, keep Impala and make it fleet-only.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [andre1969] by cooterbfd
Jul 04, 2009 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 04, 2009 8:16 am)

1965. I gotta improve my computer IQ from retard to just plain dumb before I can figure out how to post a picture
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [cooterbfd] by andre1969
Jul 04, 2009 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 04, 2009 11:01 am)

Well if you want, email me some pics (email is in my profile) and I could put them up on my site. I have an account with photobucket with tons of space.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [andre1969] by steve_ HOST
Jul 04, 2009 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 04, 2009 11:11 am)

Parking photos on your CarSpace page is pretty painless too (famous last words, lol).
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [lemko] by circlew
Jul 04, 2009 (6:31 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 04, 2009 5:23 am)

That gets back to something I've been complaining about for a long time. American car manufacturers forgot how to make AMERICAN CARS!
 
Bingo!
 
Cars.com's American-Made Index highlights the cars that are built here, have the highest amount of domestic parts — with eligible models having parts-content ratings of 75% or higher — and are bought in the largest numbers by Americans.
 
The Toyota Camry, once an American-Made Index presence, hasn't appeared on this list since 2007. Not only does it return for 2009, it's displaced Ford's F-150 as the only leader this list has had since we began compiling it in 2006. Three others joined the list, two of which — the Ford Taurus and Toyota Venza — have never been on the AMI before, and Detroit automakers claimed just five of the 10 spots. That's a record low for them.
 
MP: "Foreign" automakers captured half of the top ten spots for American-made cars in 2009:
 
#1. Toyota Camry (pictured above)
#4. Honda Odyssey
#6. Toyota Sienna
#7. Toyota Tundra
#10. Toyota Venza

 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [cooterbfd] by circlew
Jul 04, 2009 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 04, 2009 11:01 am)

cooterbfd, find a picture on the net in another browser window that is no more than 600 x 480 or around that. Right click it and click "copy image location".
 
Then, go to your post, clik the "Img" button, then right clikc your mouse and click "past" so the image location appears after the
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [circlew] by cooterbfd
Jul 05, 2009 (4:37 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 04, 2009 6:35 pm)

I'll try.
 
BTW, I think lemko was referring to "American" cars in the sense of styling, and not domestic content (though don't get me wrong, DC IS a major component). There has been, since at least the post war (WWII) a major difference in the way we and the Europeans have designed cars. I would say that here the car you drove was always as much of a fashon statement as it was transportation.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [cooterbfd] by fezo
Jul 05, 2009 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 05, 2009 4:37 am)

I'm sure that's what he meant and he's right.
 
I don't understand the move to have everything LOOK like a Camry. People don't buy Camrys because they look good. Certain generations of them have been nice looking and some at least not offensive (I don't include the current version in either camp) but people buy them no matter what for what they perceive it offers - long, reliable life.
 
Now most here would agree that a Buick will provide you with a long, reliable life as well but you need to make it look American and be uniquely American to draw people in. It can be done. I look at what Ford is doing and they have the idea. NO reason GM can't do it other than the plug gets pulled before they accomplish it.

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