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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 03, 2009 10:09 am) Last month they outsold Caddy. Should they now drop them??? How about Audi??? Volvo?? Acura??? Mitsubishi?? Suzuki??? Should they all go away??? The "revival" started with the Enclave. An SUV (CUV? whatever) that any upper middle class family would be proud to have in their driveway, if that is the type of vehicle they choose. When the concept came out, people raved about it's good looks, and THAT'S why they made it. The rest of the lineup suffers because it's (in car years) "older than the people buying them". Now, last year we see the Chinese Invicta concept. People said wow, great job. I like it. Too bad it's not coming here (a comment people seem to make about ALL Chinese market Buicks). Well, guess what; IT IS!!! With very little change, it's the 2010 LaCrosse. And guess what, people STILL like the looks. Look at the comments from some of these posters: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/08/video-2010-buick-lacrosse-inside-and-out/ Not 100% positive, but a general feeling that it's a good looking car. Now, if they can only market it. "Take a look at me now", eh.....valid point but eh...I dunno.
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 03, 2009 11:22 am) But the sales figures show a continuing decline even AFTER these new and acclaimed models (like Enclave) came out. I would bet a great deal against the 2010 Lacrosse turning that trend around. Buick needs a game-changer. They don't have one in the pipeline. OTOH, if I remember rightly they have had some gorgeous concepts in the last 10 years that might have been game-changers if they had ever gotten beyond the artist's napkin. A sexy convertible? A sedan with some actual performance cred? Those could be game-changers for Buick. Maybe. A 5500-pound minivan without the sliding doors and some small tweaks on an age-old formula for large 4-door sedans are not going to cut it.
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some people are really showing anger at the car. Is it at dealers to see?
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jul 03, 2009 3:01 pm) Happy 4th!!! Regards, Dale |
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 03, 2009 12:55 pm) But the sales figures show a continuing decline even AFTER these new and acclaimed models (like Enclave) came out." Yes, there was a continuing decline, ONLY because $4/gal gas supressed Enclave (and all SUV) sales down. Again, the Lucerne and Lacrosse are OLD models today, coupled with the fact that fleet sales are down significantly for these 2 models. Also, while sales are sliding Buick has STOPPED the 40 and 50% sales declines, losing "only" 10% as opposed to Infinity or Acura, still losing 1/3 of their sales. ".....A 5500-pound minivan without the sliding doors and some small tweaks on an age-old formula for large 4-door sedans are not going to cut it. " Based on that, I guess we could say ALL CUV'S are overglorified minivans. The new Lacrosse isn't a "tweak" it's a new car altogether.
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 03, 2009 7:08 am)  Regards, OW |
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Replying to: tlong (Jul 03, 2009 8:00 am)  Regards, OW |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 03, 2009 11:22 am) The problem with pretty much all GM's brands was not just in number of vehicles sold, but size of the shortfall from what was their minimum required to reach profitability, or even maintain survival. This year everybody is in the tank - the difference is some have cash, R&D and market position needed to make it to the other side of the slump, others had to be nationalized, force taxpayers to pay their bills, have their creditors trampled, shut off or sell half of their operations. There is a big difference. |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 03, 2009 11:22 am) I will repeat this many times in the future until Buick goes the way of Olds. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 03, 2009 4:19 pm)
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