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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 02, 2009 8:08 am) And for 30 years, the parts worked better for the off-shore brands than the US. Before that, it was the other way around. BTW, I see plenty of older folks in bimmers and audis.  Regards, OW |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 02, 2009 11:07 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 02, 2009 11:10 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Jul 02, 2009 5:43 pm) OK, but this begs the question; aside from the "bling" crowd, what is wrong with traditional "American" styling in a car, which generally means a little bit bigger and the chrome accents and grilles? If they made an AWD variant of the old Lacrosse with a 6 sp. manual, and a 450 hp twin turbo 3.6L, and put a Corvette suspension in it, would it not get attention from the younger crowd?? Mind you, the Grand National and GNX weren't much different from this philosophically. Just an aging Regal V6 hopped up on Steroids. |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 03, 2009 7:08 am) I always thought Buick did a big disservice to its customers when they eliminated the T-type models. I guess the Gran Sport sort of took over for it, but I never liked that name, because it sounds stuffy, sort of like "Old Sport". And names like "Ultra" just seem a bit pretentious.
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Replying to: buyamerican2 (Jul 03, 2009 5:41 am) Perhaps that's the disagreement. In the world of medium sedans, I would not put it anywhere near a 7. So if the old one was a 7 then perhaps the new one is a 10. But if the old one is a 4 then the new one might be a 6! As others have said, let's be realistic about the market. Buick is a tarnished name and even with excellent merchandise, their image is not likely to gain an significant market share. Does anybody *REALLY* think that Buick is ever going to have enough appeal to reverse the decade of decline to make it a brand worth keeping? That is why GM should dump the nameplate in the U.S.
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Replying to: tlong (Jul 03, 2009 8:00 am) Buick is to GM as Scion is to Toyota. A small niche group of three vehicles that sells well and are a step up from the plain vanilla offerings(yet not Lexus). Nobody's screaming for Toyota to drop Scion. Buicks sell well, considering. The real deal is chat to do with Chevrolet's bloat and excess.
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 03, 2009 8:36 am) Are the cars that bad or what gives? Total Buick sales were over twice Scion sales. |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 03, 2009 7:45 am) I agree. I don't know if a name like Limited or Roadmaster just got long in the tooth in their eyes, but I know I'd rather see Roadmaster on my PA instead of Ultra. |
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Replying to: buyamerican2 (Jul 03, 2009 5:41 am) Which revival is that, exactly? Buick sales are by far the lowest the brand has ever had, and the decline continues this year. There are those who feel that now that Toyota has basically ruined the Scion brand, it SHOULD drop it. The exciting thing about the original Scion models was that they were JDM models that were unlike anything Toyota offered in America. Then Toyota replaced them with "Americanized" 2nd-gen versions, and now where's the attraction? Hence the tanking of sales. The same is true at Buick: its lineup consists exclusively of models that are little different from stuff GM already offers, and in Buick's case, they are also little different from what other car companies are offering. Where's the attraction?
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