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Replying to: lemko (Jul 02, 2009 5:44 am) Reinforcing the point that some people got old not by being smart but by being too mean and ornery to die. 
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 02, 2009 6:18 am) Definitely true. Even there though, I think if I found an otherwise nice car that looked like it had been well-maintained that had the 301, I might be willing to take the chance. That caramel-brown '77 Grand LeMans sedan that was at the Carlisle GM show in 2007/2008 (but not this year) has a 301. Although maybe it finally blew, and that's why it wasn't at the show for 2009! 
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 01, 2009 1:05 pm) |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 02, 2009 6:11 am) Too bad you didn't. You really need another car. 
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Replying to: buyamerican2 (Jul 02, 2009 6:29 am) In 1957-58, I think Olds might actually have been the best-built of the GM cars. While Buick and Cadillac went to that wasp-waisted "X-frame" in '57, and Chevy/Pontiac joined for 1958, Olds sort of doubled up, using an X-frame, but with perimeter rails as well. Sort of an X within a box. For 1959-64, I think Chevy/Buick went with an X-frame, while Pontiac/Olds went with a perimeter frame. I forget now what Cadillac did. |
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Replying to: fezo (Jul 02, 2009 6:39 am) Lessee, that was the summer of 1999. At that time, I had an '89 Gran Fury ex copcar as my daily driver, my grandmother's '85 LeSabre as a spare car, the DeSoto, the Catalina and a '67 Chrysler Newport hardtop coupe. So yeah, a '79 Bonneville would have fit in well. I probably could have gotten it for a few hundred bucks. The owner was actually planning on donating it to a charity! He also had a 1988 or so Fiero GT, and a Chrysler 300M. Old guy, well into his 60's, but I think he had decent taste in cars. |
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Replying to: buyamerican2 (Jul 02, 2009 6:29 am) |
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 02, 2009 4:36 am) Absolutely, I do. Fair or not, it IS something GM has to work hard to overcome. Even though the original Lexus ES was a gussied up Camry, the perception is that the Camry was a toned down Lexus. Fortunately, all the car rags seem to agree that the 3.6L is a world class engine. Hopefully, the cars they get put in will someday soon be seen as world class, and it won't matter that they run the same engine, just like it doesn't matter for Chrysler, Ford, Toyota, Nissan, et al. |
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 02, 2009 5:35 am) One caveat; we have to exchange the Limited's 364 Nailhead for a 425 w/ the 6x2bbl setup for more power and effect. Otherwise, the ultra rare Stage III 455 will do. |
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Replying to: buyamerican2 (Jul 02, 2009 6:29 am) Sure, but impressionable kids like me noticed the Fisher logo on the sills in our Buick, and then I'd see the same logo in friends' Chevys. They should have used different badges there too. It made me wonder "why bother" getting a Caddy or Buick if "parts are parts." My father went from the '53 Buick to a Valiant to a Falcon. As much as he loved his Buick, I think it was the only one he drove. He was 36 when he got it and drove it for around 14 years, so he got his money's worth out of it.
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