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Re: Buick sales may rebound [cooterbfd] by bpizzuti
Jul 02, 2009 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 01, 2009 12:59 pm)

No we won't. I wouldn't buy a Buick if the late great Billy Mays was selling them for $19.95. How am I supposed to meet women driving a Buick, huh?
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Re: 4x8? [cooterbfd] by bpizzuti
Jul 02, 2009 (4:26 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 01, 2009 1:22 pm)

You laugh, but when I look at my '29 Buick, there are quite a bit of similarities between it and a Chevy, Olds, or Oakland of the same year. In fact, the body manual I have is a Fisher Body, and not a Buick/ Fisher Body.
 
Everyone laughs. GM back then had the reputation tog et away with that...they could sell it as getting Buick/Olds components in a Chevy.
 
However, with GM's rep these days, it's vice-versa. You're getting Chevy components in a Buick/Caddy. That doesn't fly.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [bpizzuti] by cooterbfd
Jul 02, 2009 (4:27 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 02, 2009 4:23 am)

".....How am I supposed to meet women driving a Buick, huh? "
 
Well, I DID IT!!! 17 years married, 2 sons, all out of a 1988 Regal. My wife LOVES her Ranier.
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Re: 2009 Sales [torque_r] by bpizzuti
Jul 02, 2009 (4:29 am)
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Replying to: torque_r (Jul 01, 2009 9:56 pm)

Wow, Ford's back to #2 market share and losing less business than Toyota? That whole not taking a bailout thing did wonders for them it looks like.
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Re: 4x8? [bpizzuti] by cooterbfd
Jul 02, 2009 (4:31 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 02, 2009 4:26 am)

"..... You're getting Chevy components in a Buick/Caddy."
 
As far as the 6 sp auto and the 3.6 V-6 goes, do you really believe that? If so, THAT is old GM mentality. We're not talking a 250 backed up by a Powerglide. It IS a corporate engine mated to a corporate transaxle.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [cooterbfd] by bpizzuti
Jul 02, 2009 (4:32 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 02, 2009 4:27 am)

Yeah, but that was 17 years ago when Buick still had a little prestige. Today, Buick only has prestige with the people who were shopping for a Buick 17 years ago.
 
Oh, and Lemko.
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Re: 2009 Sales [bpizzuti] by cooterbfd
Jul 02, 2009 (4:34 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 02, 2009 4:29 am)

"......That whole not taking a bailout thing did wonders for them it looks like. "
 
I think it did too, as they weren't pushed into bankruptcy. However, I think the positive press surrounding the Fusion, F-150, and Taurus had as much to do with it as anything. Toyota isn't in trouble, and they took a sales beating too.
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Re: 4x8? [cooterbfd] by bpizzuti
Jul 02, 2009 (4:36 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 02, 2009 4:31 am)

Yes it is, but we're talking perception here. If a company has a strong reputation, they can get away with being corporate across the board, and even twist it to help them: "Hey, this is Caddy stuff and you're getting it in a Chevy!" But for a company with a bad rep, or one that needs to be built up, the perception is that they're using the cheap-brand components in the expensive brands...and it becomes a Malibu drivetrain in the CTS, rather than vice versa. See what I'm getting at?
 
Unfortunately, that's something that costs a lot to fix, either marketing-wise or product differentiation. But until GM brings their reputation back up somewhat, the perception will be that Buick and Cadillac are using "commoner" Chevy drivetrains, and not that you're getting high-end luxury-brand components in your Chevy.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [cooterbfd] by lemko
Jul 02, 2009 (5:35 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 01, 2009 12:59 pm)

Well, if I really wamted to stand out on the west coast, I'd definitely buy a Buick rather than blend in with the sea of anonymous imports. If I lived in Beverly Hills, I'd be thundering through the streets in my massive 1958 Buick Limitied in an automotive expression of a huge upright middle finger to all those west coasters' import-worshipping elitism.
 
I'm sure there's at least one Buick LaCrosse you won't be passing. My girlfriend drives her car very aggressive and is as proud of it as you import fanboys are of your Teutonic tanks.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [cooterbfd] by lemko
Jul 02, 2009 (5:40 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 01, 2009 2:03 pm)

Heck, if I was a celebrity, I exclusively drive Buicks just to p-off my elitist peers! Heck, Buick wouldn't even have to pay for the endorsement - I'd do it for free because I truly believe in the product. Heck, I'd even have a custom Buick Lucerne limousine built for my appearances at movie premieres and Oscar night and such.

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