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Re: What I can't believe is... [iluvmysephia1] by cooterbfd
Jul 02, 2009 (3:39 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jul 02, 2009 3:30 am)

"......Kia offers more value for the money, more innovation, cooler designs, and a Long-Haul Warranty that is very hard to beat. I don't get people in this regard."
 
I agree about the minivan thing. Like I was saying about Buick on the west coast, when it comes to a minivan, people just assume Caravan. That is probably the name everybody knows (I know that the Sienna and Odyessy have caught up).
 
Another thing, like Buick and the "old peoples car", Kia still has to get over being a "cheap" car. Then sales will increase.
 
One last thing I forgot to mention; Kia doesn't have the dealer network Chrysler has, either.
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That's another American myth... by iluvmysephia1
Jul 02, 2009 (3:47 am)
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and there are several of them. Kia does not make cheap cars, Kia makes cars that are built well, but they don't agree with over-charging people for them.
 
Then they back up their cars with the best Warranty in the business. They will demand that you follow your maintenance schedule fully-completely in exchange for that great Warranty.
 
If I didn't own my '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS which is just about to eclipse 40,000 miles, I would probably buy a new 2010 Kia Forte sedan.
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Re: That's another American myth... [iluvmysephia1] by cooterbfd
Jul 02, 2009 (4:02 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jul 02, 2009 3:47 am)

Notice I put cheap in parenthesis. My SIL has a 2001 Sportage that has been relatively trouble free, and has about 150,000 miles on it. I think it's dinky in size, and nothing special, but it does the job; gets her from point A to B relatively cheaply.
 
Back to Buick for a sec, June's sales seem to show a bottoming out for them. While GM was down 33.6%, Buick was only down 10.7%. That would be 3rd place for all luxury makes in this category, as only Volvo (+.6%) and Audi (-8.3%) did better.
 
And the new Lacrosse hasn't even hit showrooms yet.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [cooterbfd] by bpizzuti
Jul 02, 2009 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 01, 2009 12:59 pm)

No we won't. I wouldn't buy a Buick if the late great Billy Mays was selling them for $19.95. How am I supposed to meet women driving a Buick, huh?
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Re: 4x8? [cooterbfd] by bpizzuti
Jul 02, 2009 (4:26 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 01, 2009 1:22 pm)

You laugh, but when I look at my '29 Buick, there are quite a bit of similarities between it and a Chevy, Olds, or Oakland of the same year. In fact, the body manual I have is a Fisher Body, and not a Buick/ Fisher Body.
 
Everyone laughs. GM back then had the reputation tog et away with that...they could sell it as getting Buick/Olds components in a Chevy.
 
However, with GM's rep these days, it's vice-versa. You're getting Chevy components in a Buick/Caddy. That doesn't fly.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [bpizzuti] by cooterbfd
Jul 02, 2009 (4:27 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 02, 2009 4:23 am)

".....How am I supposed to meet women driving a Buick, huh? "
 
Well, I DID IT!!! 17 years married, 2 sons, all out of a 1988 Regal. My wife LOVES her Ranier.
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Re: 2009 Sales [torque_r] by bpizzuti
Jul 02, 2009 (4:29 am)
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Replying to: torque_r (Jul 01, 2009 9:56 pm)

Wow, Ford's back to #2 market share and losing less business than Toyota? That whole not taking a bailout thing did wonders for them it looks like.
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Re: 4x8? [bpizzuti] by cooterbfd
Jul 02, 2009 (4:31 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 02, 2009 4:26 am)

"..... You're getting Chevy components in a Buick/Caddy."
 
As far as the 6 sp auto and the 3.6 V-6 goes, do you really believe that? If so, THAT is old GM mentality. We're not talking a 250 backed up by a Powerglide. It IS a corporate engine mated to a corporate transaxle.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [cooterbfd] by bpizzuti
Jul 02, 2009 (4:32 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 02, 2009 4:27 am)

Yeah, but that was 17 years ago when Buick still had a little prestige. Today, Buick only has prestige with the people who were shopping for a Buick 17 years ago.
 
Oh, and Lemko.
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Re: 2009 Sales [bpizzuti] by cooterbfd
Jul 02, 2009 (4:34 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jul 02, 2009 4:29 am)

"......That whole not taking a bailout thing did wonders for them it looks like. "
 
I think it did too, as they weren't pushed into bankruptcy. However, I think the positive press surrounding the Fusion, F-150, and Taurus had as much to do with it as anything. Toyota isn't in trouble, and they took a sales beating too.

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