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Re: Buick sales may rebound [cooterbfd] by gagrice
Jul 01, 2009 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 01, 2009 2:03 pm)

Of course they will. Whatever Hollywood does, the rest of the Fashonista's blindly follow.
 
The Wonks in Hollywood drive a Prius when people are looking. The rest of the time they are in Range Rovers, MB G55 AMGs and Rolls Royces.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [xrunner2] by mcribb
Jul 01, 2009 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jul 01, 2009 1:45 pm)

I do not think it will help GM much. How is the 2010 lacrosse going to be that much greater than the new Malibu?? Most people buy cars and Suvs because of the image, not on how well it drives or if they are reliable. Buick still reminds me of old people..sorry.
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GM's on fire by steve_ HOST
Jul 01, 2009 (5:44 pm)
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As in Fire Sale!!!
 
"General Motors will offer zero-percent financing for up to 72 months on select 2009 and 2010 vehicles as part of a "72-Hour Sale" that begins today. Soon-to-be-discontinued Pontiac models such as the Vibe, G3, G5, G6 and G8 are on the list, including the Pontiac G8 GXP. The sale runs to July 6."
 
GM's 72-Hour Sale Includes Pontiac G8 (Inside Line)
 
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [gagrice] by carstryke
Jul 01, 2009 (8:15 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 01, 2009 5:27 pm)

Me personally would not buy a buick quite simply because they are ugly : / Bad styling with a bad reputation(old ppl's car) is never a good sign. I guess the only good thing going for a buick driver is the fact you get to be original at a decent price(won't pass 100 other buicks on the way to work)
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2009 Sales by torque_r
Jul 01, 2009 (9:56 pm)
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2009 Sales through June 30.
 
GM: ---------------------- 952,904 down 40.1%, Market Share: 19.9
Ford: -------------------- 773,386 down 32.4%, Market Share: 16.2
Toyota: ----------------- 770,449 down 37.5%, Market Share: 16.1
Honda: ----------------- 530,778 down 33.1%, Market Share: 11.1
Chrysler: --------------- 471,197 down 45.3%, Market Share: 9.8
Nissan: ----------------- 347,744, down 33.0%, Market Share: 7.3
Hyundai: --------------- 204,686, down 10.8%, Market Share 4.3
Kia: ---------------------- 147,404, down 5.9%, Market Share: 3.1
VW: ---------------------- 134,853, down 15.5%, Market Share: 2.8
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Re: 2009 Sales [torque_r] by circlew
Jul 02, 2009 (2:59 am)
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Replying to: torque_r (Jul 01, 2009 9:56 pm)

Thanks! Hard to believe Hyundai/Kia is even with Nissan already and breathing down C's neck. Only a matter of time.
 
As far as Buick is concerned, please don't tell me the new entity management is making tough decisions.
 
Chevrolet and Cadillac would be the tough decision. The easy way out is exactly what is being sought after.
 
The lessons still have not been learned. Hard to shake a bad brand.
 
Oldsmobile lost it, Pontiac was a slow death. Buick has already died. AFAIC, the Enclave should have been a Caddy. The La Crosse is really an Impala, a brand that was left by the wayside long ago.
 
G8, G7,G6, G5, G4, G3, G2, G1..... Blast Off!
 
Regards,
OW
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What I can't believe is... by iluvmysephia1
Jul 02, 2009 (3:30 am)
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that Chrysler sold 471,197 cars in 2009 and Kia sold only 147,404.
 
Who buys a Chrysler? Reality check for the American people, unless this funny minivan thing is still in soccer Mom's minds as a going concern, Chrysler doesn't offer much besides the old standard minivans and a decent pickup truck.
 
Kia offers more value for the money, more innovation, cooler designs, and a Long-Haul Warranty that is very hard to beat. I don't get people in this regard.
 
Like, who would be a L.A. Laker fan, or, even worse, who would be a Kobe Bryant fan? Are these the same people who buy Chrysler's?
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Re: What I can't believe is... [iluvmysephia1] by cooterbfd
Jul 02, 2009 (3:39 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jul 02, 2009 3:30 am)

"......Kia offers more value for the money, more innovation, cooler designs, and a Long-Haul Warranty that is very hard to beat. I don't get people in this regard."
 
I agree about the minivan thing. Like I was saying about Buick on the west coast, when it comes to a minivan, people just assume Caravan. That is probably the name everybody knows (I know that the Sienna and Odyessy have caught up).
 
Another thing, like Buick and the "old peoples car", Kia still has to get over being a "cheap" car. Then sales will increase.
 
One last thing I forgot to mention; Kia doesn't have the dealer network Chrysler has, either.
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That's another American myth... by iluvmysephia1
Jul 02, 2009 (3:47 am)
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and there are several of them. Kia does not make cheap cars, Kia makes cars that are built well, but they don't agree with over-charging people for them.
 
Then they back up their cars with the best Warranty in the business. They will demand that you follow your maintenance schedule fully-completely in exchange for that great Warranty.
 
If I didn't own my '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS which is just about to eclipse 40,000 miles, I would probably buy a new 2010 Kia Forte sedan.
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Re: That's another American myth... [iluvmysephia1] by cooterbfd
Jul 02, 2009 (4:02 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jul 02, 2009 3:47 am)

Notice I put cheap in parenthesis. My SIL has a 2001 Sportage that has been relatively trouble free, and has about 150,000 miles on it. I think it's dinky in size, and nothing special, but it does the job; gets her from point A to B relatively cheaply.
 
Back to Buick for a sec, June's sales seem to show a bottoming out for them. While GM was down 33.6%, Buick was only down 10.7%. That would be 3rd place for all luxury makes in this category, as only Volvo (+.6%) and Audi (-8.3%) did better.
 
And the new Lacrosse hasn't even hit showrooms yet.

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