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Re: 4x8? [cooterbfd] by steve_ HOST
Jul 01, 2009 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 01, 2009 1:22 pm)

Yeah, 80 years of that stuff will kill a car company.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [nippononly] by xrunner2
Jul 01, 2009 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 01, 2009 12:02 pm)

This notion is a fallacy in my area (west coast). Nothing will boost Buick showroom traffic.
 
Do west coast people have open minds? What if new Lacrosse gets grand slam home run reviews - will CA people ignore it? Certainly the styling on the latest Buicks is not stogdy. The Enclave has better styling than the snobbish Beamer crossovers they call SAVs.
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Re: 4x8? [steve_] by cooterbfd
Jul 01, 2009 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 01, 2009 1:24 pm)

Seriously, what started the ball rolling was the loss of individuality for each of the car companies. 80 yrs ago, Buick had a OHV 6 cyl, whereas Caddy had a flathead V8. Chevy didn't get an 8 until 25 years after Buick.
 
In a few weeks, I'll go look at a Lacrosse with the same engine as a CTS AND the Malibu. It is amazing that something like this will dog GM, yet 40 yrs ago Ford and Chrysler were putting corporate engines in their cars.
 
Now, I know an issue like this is only the tip of the iceberg, and there are far bigger problems dogging GM, but giving the brands back some form of individuality and character will go a long way towards a recovery, along with quality, reliability and price.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [xrunner2] by cooterbfd
Jul 01, 2009 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jul 01, 2009 1:45 pm)

".....Do west coast people have open minds? What if new Lacrosse gets grand slam home run reviews - will CA people ignore it?"
 
Of course they will. Whatever Hollywood does, the rest of the Fashonista's blindly follow.
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Re: 4x8? [cooterbfd] by steve_ HOST
Jul 01, 2009 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 01, 2009 1:56 pm)

I makes you wonder what's the bigger "commodity" automobile - Henry Ford's Model T or any recent GM brand.
 
Then again, I have trouble distinguishing or justifying Toyota/Lexus, Nissan/Infiniti or Honda/Acura, much less Chevy and Buick.
 
My wife is shopping Scions ... because she likes Toyotas.
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Re: 4x8? [steve_] by fezo
Jul 01, 2009 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 01, 2009 2:21 pm)

Your California problem might be finding a Buick dealer.
 
Of course I assume you'd find them once you went a bit inland.
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it's true by nippononly
Jul 01, 2009 (2:53 pm)
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I am referring to everyone within 50 miles or so of the coast in California, which is about 30 million of the state's 35 million people. And as fezo mentions, it will be very hard in that region to even find a Buick dealer, let alone anyone who will take the trouble to visit one.
 
It's not a case of minds being open or closed, it's a case of an automotive market FLOODED with brands, good reliable brands, brands which are critically acclaimed. Buick is a forgotten name. This is the reason Isuzu doesn't sell any cars here any more - their name was just forgotten, it was run over by the volume brands. It's the reason Mitsubishi won't be selling cars here any more in 5-10 years - a forgotten name being run over by the volume brands that have better advertising, better deals, and in many cases better product.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [cooterbfd] by gagrice
Jul 01, 2009 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 01, 2009 2:03 pm)

Of course they will. Whatever Hollywood does, the rest of the Fashonista's blindly follow.
 
The Wonks in Hollywood drive a Prius when people are looking. The rest of the time they are in Range Rovers, MB G55 AMGs and Rolls Royces.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [xrunner2] by mcribb
Jul 01, 2009 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jul 01, 2009 1:45 pm)

I do not think it will help GM much. How is the 2010 lacrosse going to be that much greater than the new Malibu?? Most people buy cars and Suvs because of the image, not on how well it drives or if they are reliable. Buick still reminds me of old people..sorry.
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GM's on fire by steve_ HOST
Jul 01, 2009 (5:44 pm)
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As in Fire Sale!!!
 
"General Motors will offer zero-percent financing for up to 72 months on select 2009 and 2010 vehicles as part of a "72-Hour Sale" that begins today. Soon-to-be-discontinued Pontiac models such as the Vibe, G3, G5, G6 and G8 are on the list, including the Pontiac G8 GXP. The sale runs to July 6."
 
GM's 72-Hour Sale Includes Pontiac G8 (Inside Line)
 

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