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Replying to: cadillacmike (Jul 01, 2009 9:39 am) You may have no problems with your CTS so far, but a lot of others somewhat disagree with you. No it's not that bad, and I agree that CTS is pretty reliable for a GM car, but Buick's LaCrosse has been far more reliable. Plus, LaCrosse's fit-finish is better than that of the CTS' (or any Cadillac I've seen for that matter) CTS is good, but an additional quality improvement can make it great. If you can add for one more step towards prefection, why not???? They should learn from the old management's mistakes.
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Replying to: tomcatt630 (Jun 24, 2009 7:31 am) Kind of interesting, isn't it, to imagine where GM could be today with Buick if they hadn't thrown away tons of resources rebuilding Saturn only to have no-one "rediscover" the brand? Will the new GM continue these mistakes of the past? Some indications are that they will. Defend Buick fiercely if you will, but 4 brands is more than GM can properly handle, or sell given the market share it will ultimately have. |
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jun 30, 2009 7:10 am) This notion is a fallacy in my area (west coast). Nothing will boost Buick showroom traffic. They will continue to sell a dozen cars a year to folks over 65 who started driving 50 years ago when Buick was an aspirational brand, and that's it. The Buick name is dead and forgotten here. And there are WAY too many nice midsize sedans from brands people remember and respect for Lacrosse to stand out in anyone's mind, even if it is all that and a bag of chips.
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 01, 2009 12:02 pm) Nothing will boost Buick showroom traffic. They will continue to sell a dozen cars a year to folks over 65 who started driving 50 years ago when Buick was an aspirational brand, and that's it. The Buick name is dead and forgotten here. Last year's NYIAS proved none was looking at Buick...tumbleweeds blew past the Enclave, Lacrosse and Lucerne. Should have gotten it over with during the C11. At the end of the day, Buick and GMC will go away....but it will cost more now, that's all. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 01, 2009 10:46 am) The last time I got some, I got the 4x12s. They fit in the back of my minivan, but the hatch wouldn't quite close. The trick is to put a 2x12 or two underneath to support any rock that's hanging over your tailgate - if the old Buick VistaCruisers were wide enough, they'd haul 4x8s or 4x12s just fine. Keeps most of the drywall out of the weather too. GM just needs to make a compact minivan with disappearing seats that'll handle 4' wide sheet goods, and offer a manual 6 speed option. Me and six other guys would buy one. 
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 01, 2009 12:02 pm) That's fine. There are almost twice as many people living in the Northeast Corridor (from northern Va to Maine) as Cali. We'll take care of that. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 01, 2009 12:53 pm) Ummm, they were OLDSMOBILE Vista Cruisers. Buicks were Sportwagons and Estate Wagons. The '57 version was a Caballero
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 01, 2009 1:02 pm) Stuff like that led to GM's demise. 
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 01, 2009 11:35 am) Are you suggesting that GM *incrementally improve*? Oh the humanity!
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 01, 2009 1:05 pm) You laugh, but when I look at my '29 Buick, there are quite a bit of similarities between it and a Chevy, Olds, or Oakland of the same year. In fact, the body manual I have is a Fisher Body, and not a Buick/ Fisher Body.
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