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Replying to: lemko (Jul 01, 2009 10:54 am) As far as wagons go, I liked that 1984-ish Parisienne Safari we saw at Carlisle...but not at the $4995 price tag! |
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 01, 2009 10:54 am) Of course for early SUV types there was this -  Jeep wagoneer |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 30, 2009 8:38 am) The other day I was towing our boat down to the lake where we keep it with the Expedition. It's about a 60 mile one way drive down lots of two lane country road. Not once, not twice, but three time I had to pass excessively slow drivers going between 40-50 on a rural, flat, and straight country road with a 55 mph speed limit. You'll never guess what the 3 cars where.... Well maybe, the first was a Park Ave, the second was a Lucerne, and the 3rd believe it or not was a Lacrosse. I was laughing to myself thinking about the debate on these forums regarding Buick's reputation, and also about what were the odds of my passing 3 Buick's in a row all within an hour. |
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Replying to: cadillacmike (Jul 01, 2009 9:39 am) You may have no problems with your CTS so far, but a lot of others somewhat disagree with you. No it's not that bad, and I agree that CTS is pretty reliable for a GM car, but Buick's LaCrosse has been far more reliable. Plus, LaCrosse's fit-finish is better than that of the CTS' (or any Cadillac I've seen for that matter) CTS is good, but an additional quality improvement can make it great. If you can add for one more step towards prefection, why not???? They should learn from the old management's mistakes.
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Replying to: tomcatt630 (Jun 24, 2009 7:31 am) Kind of interesting, isn't it, to imagine where GM could be today with Buick if they hadn't thrown away tons of resources rebuilding Saturn only to have no-one "rediscover" the brand? Will the new GM continue these mistakes of the past? Some indications are that they will. Defend Buick fiercely if you will, but 4 brands is more than GM can properly handle, or sell given the market share it will ultimately have. |
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jun 30, 2009 7:10 am) This notion is a fallacy in my area (west coast). Nothing will boost Buick showroom traffic. They will continue to sell a dozen cars a year to folks over 65 who started driving 50 years ago when Buick was an aspirational brand, and that's it. The Buick name is dead and forgotten here. And there are WAY too many nice midsize sedans from brands people remember and respect for Lacrosse to stand out in anyone's mind, even if it is all that and a bag of chips.
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 01, 2009 12:02 pm) Nothing will boost Buick showroom traffic. They will continue to sell a dozen cars a year to folks over 65 who started driving 50 years ago when Buick was an aspirational brand, and that's it. The Buick name is dead and forgotten here. Last year's NYIAS proved none was looking at Buick...tumbleweeds blew past the Enclave, Lacrosse and Lucerne. Should have gotten it over with during the C11. At the end of the day, Buick and GMC will go away....but it will cost more now, that's all. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 01, 2009 10:46 am) The last time I got some, I got the 4x12s. They fit in the back of my minivan, but the hatch wouldn't quite close. The trick is to put a 2x12 or two underneath to support any rock that's hanging over your tailgate - if the old Buick VistaCruisers were wide enough, they'd haul 4x8s or 4x12s just fine. Keeps most of the drywall out of the weather too. GM just needs to make a compact minivan with disappearing seats that'll handle 4' wide sheet goods, and offer a manual 6 speed option. Me and six other guys would buy one. 
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 01, 2009 12:02 pm) That's fine. There are almost twice as many people living in the Northeast Corridor (from northern Va to Maine) as Cali. We'll take care of that. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 01, 2009 12:53 pm) Ummm, they were OLDSMOBILE Vista Cruisers. Buicks were Sportwagons and Estate Wagons. The '57 version was a Caballero
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