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Re: Isnt the answer so simple? [m4d_cow] by cadillacmike
Jul 01, 2009 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 01, 2009 6:35 am)

What are you smoking??
 
We have nearly 100,000 miles on my Wife's CTS with Every available option (read this as being that many more things to break) and no major problems to date! I'm right now trying to think of any minor problems other than an onstar microphone issue 4 years ago... Nope can't think of any.
 
My Eldorado had been largely trouble free for 120,000 miles.
 
My Fleetwood went 195,000 miles with nothing worse than a burned out compressor, alternator and water pump over the years, none of which rendered it dead on the side of the road. It would still be running it it wasn't crashed in an accident.
 
No i think you are in error with that statement.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [fezo] by cadillacmike
Jul 01, 2009 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: fezo (Jul 01, 2009 6:52 am)

Try a Fleetwood - aboutt 6 inches longer than even the wagom.
 
Actually I bought a new LeSabre in 1992. I wasn't even 32 yet and i think i'm the youngest Lesabre buyer on record.
 
But it had the Gran Touring suspension with 16 inch wheel and 60 series H rated tires. Very nice car, rant it to 175,000 miles, traded it in on a Fleetwood, 3 years later I saw it going down the road, I could tell it was my old car because of the front hood ornament that i installed and the trunk paint peeling (that was the one thing that ticked me off about the car). It's probably sill rinning now. Thoise 3800 V6s would last forever. In fact 1990s GM FWD 3800s are the new ghetto-mobile.
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One disadvantage of station wagons... by andre1969
Jul 01, 2009 (9:50 am)
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is that they're not always good for hauling tall items, or items that have to be carried upright. For instance, I had to buy a new dryer a few months ago, and I doubt that it would have fit in any station wagon. Maybe something with a tall roof, like a Subaru Forrester, but probably not any traditional station wagon since maybe a 1957 Chevy/Pontiac.
 
Sort of a moot point though, because every place I went to when I was dryer shopping didn't have any in stock. They only took orders, and then you had to have it delivered.
 
Also, unless you go FWD, I don't think most station wagons have a 3rd row seat, once you get to anything smaller than a downsized Caprice/Crown Vic. Now the old pre-downsized intermediates had third row seats, but most of them were actually BIGGER than the downsized Ford/GM cars! Cars like the 1976 Volare, 1978 Fairmont, 1978 Malibu, and even the 2005 Magnum, none of 'em have a 3rd row seat. Something like a Taurus or Celebirty wagon would, though. And I guess some RWD cars with an independent rear suspension might have a 3rd row seat, since they can get the gas tank under the back seat, rather than behind the axle.
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Re: 4x8? [tomcatt630] by lemko
Jul 01, 2009 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: tomcatt630 (Jul 01, 2009 8:09 am)

Drywall still comes in 4 x 8 sheets.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [fezo] by lemko
Jul 01, 2009 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: fezo (Jul 01, 2009 8:14 am)

Back in the day, the only people who had SUVs were sportsmen like hunters or anglers. The vehicles were hardly the plush soccer-mommy mobiles of today. They were like Chevrolet Blazers with vinyl seats and rubber floormats that dirt, mud, and other debris could easily be hosed-off and had removable fiberglass tops. They were pretty barren without power windows, power seats, and other such amenities that are now "necessary."
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Re: One disadvantage of station wagons... [andre1969] by lemko
Jul 01, 2009 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 01, 2009 9:50 am)

For tall items, get yourself a 1964 Studebaker Wagonaire! I recall there was an SUV with a sliding rear roor, but it was short-lived. Probably because it leaked like the Wagonaire did. The original plan for the 1955-57 Chevrolet Nomad was to have a telescoping rear roof. The fluted roof portion is a vestige of that aborted idea.
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Re: One disadvantage of station wagons... [lemko] by andre1969
Jul 01, 2009 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 01, 2009 10:54 am)

Yeah, there was a version of the GMC Envoy that had a sliding roof. I don't know if it leaked or not, but it just wasn't very popular.
 
As far as wagons go, I liked that 1984-ish Parisienne Safari we saw at Carlisle...but not at the $4995 price tag!
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Re: One disadvantage of station wagons... [lemko] by fezo
Jul 01, 2009 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 01, 2009 10:54 am)

You beat me to it with the Studebaker! I remember those - not that there were many of them.
 
Of course for early SUV types there was this -
 

 
Jeep wagoneer
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [andre1969] by dieselone
Jul 01, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 30, 2009 8:38 am)

The old/dowdy image wouldn't keep me from buying a Buick, if I still thought the car was good enough. But, I can understand the rationale that many people have for not buying them, and unfortunately the nameplate might have too much excess baggage associated with it at this point.
 
The other day I was towing our boat down to the lake where we keep it with the Expedition. It's about a 60 mile one way drive down lots of two lane country road. Not once, not twice, but three time I had to pass excessively slow drivers going between 40-50 on a rural, flat, and straight country road with a 55 mph speed limit. You'll never guess what the 3 cars where.... Well maybe, the first was a Park Ave, the second was a Lucerne, and the 3rd believe it or not was a Lacrosse. I was laughing to myself thinking about the debate on these forums regarding Buick's reputation, and also about what were the odds of my passing 3 Buick's in a row all within an hour.

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