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Replying to: fezo (Jul 01, 2009 6:52 am) |
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 01, 2009 6:45 am) Right. Had a Chevy Caprice station wagon for about 8 years and it was great for hauling stuff, people and was comfortable. It did have some quality issues, the worst being a bad camshaft that dealer replaced out of warranty and got Chevy/GM to pick up half expense. Too bad we will probably never again see a full size rwd V8 station wagon from GM, or any other mfr. We are in the days of Enclave, Traverse, Acadia as station wagon substitutes. Have not checked, but would guess that these new GM crossovers will not carry a 4x8 inside. |
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 Well, in the 60's and 70's, lots of homeowners put woodgrain plywood paneling in basements, family rooms, and living rooms. So back then, wagons hauled 4x8 sheets regularly. Now, homeoweners prefer to paint walls, so the need for hauling these sheets is rare.
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 01, 2009 7:01 am) While I am all in favor of style we've gotten mighty silly with things. First the minivans show up and all of a sunned wagons aren't "cool." then they manage to make minivans "uncool' so they can sell SUVs at more profit. It seems every jump in profit is accompanied by a loss of utility. Any of these vehicles have their niche but it looks like the model now is to produce cars in larger volumes than a niche. Of course now you get a trend of CUVs. Don't tell anyone they are wagons.....
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Replying to: fezo (Jul 01, 2009 8:14 am) The more things change.............
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Replying to: fezo (Jul 01, 2009 8:14 am) That's because they aren't. They're hatchbacks. 
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 01, 2009 6:35 am) We have nearly 100,000 miles on my Wife's CTS with Every available option (read this as being that many more things to break) and no major problems to date! I'm right now trying to think of any minor problems other than an onstar microphone issue 4 years ago... Nope can't think of any. My Eldorado had been largely trouble free for 120,000 miles. My Fleetwood went 195,000 miles with nothing worse than a burned out compressor, alternator and water pump over the years, none of which rendered it dead on the side of the road. It would still be running it it wasn't crashed in an accident. No i think you are in error with that statement.
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Replying to: fezo (Jul 01, 2009 6:52 am) Actually I bought a new LeSabre in 1992. I wasn't even 32 yet and i think i'm the youngest Lesabre buyer on record. But it had the Gran Touring suspension with 16 inch wheel and 60 series H rated tires. Very nice car, rant it to 175,000 miles, traded it in on a Fleetwood, 3 years later I saw it going down the road, I could tell it was my old car because of the front hood ornament that i installed and the trunk paint peeling (that was the one thing that ticked me off about the car). It's probably sill rinning now. Thoise 3800 V6s would last forever. In fact 1990s GM FWD 3800s are the new ghetto-mobile. |
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is that they're not always good for hauling tall items, or items that have to be carried upright. For instance, I had to buy a new dryer a few months ago, and I doubt that it would have fit in any station wagon. Maybe something with a tall roof, like a Subaru Forrester, but probably not any traditional station wagon since maybe a 1957 Chevy/Pontiac. Sort of a moot point though, because every place I went to when I was dryer shopping didn't have any in stock. They only took orders, and then you had to have it delivered.  Also, unless you go FWD, I don't think most station wagons have a 3rd row seat, once you get to anything smaller than a downsized Caprice/Crown Vic. Now the old pre-downsized intermediates had third row seats, but most of them were actually BIGGER than the downsized Ford/GM cars! Cars like the 1976 Volare, 1978 Fairmont, 1978 Malibu, and even the 2005 Magnum, none of 'em have a 3rd row seat. Something like a Taurus or Celebirty wagon would, though. And I guess some RWD cars with an independent rear suspension might have a 3rd row seat, since they can get the gas tank under the back seat, rather than behind the axle.
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