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How much does a CTS by andres3
Jun 26, 2009 (10:44 am)
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Rental cost per day?
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Re: How much does a CTS [andres3] by lilengineerboy
Jun 26, 2009 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Jun 26, 2009 10:44 am)

Rental cost per day?
 
So back in like, I dunno, the 80s, before Dodge made Neons, Al Gore singly had this idea for a way to interconnect "personal computers" around the world via this tool called "the internet." As its come to pas, this idea caught on, and these enterprising young fellows created a tool that uses "the internet" and will actually look at all these different connected computers for a piece of information. They called this tool "Google." One need not make ridiculous claims about its durability or longevity, head gaskets, heater cores or even its warranty, as this tool is free.
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Re: How much does a CTS [andres3] by fintail
Jun 26, 2009 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: andres3 (Jun 26, 2009 10:44 am)

Yeah, you'll have to look it up. Rates vary by location, specific days of the week rented, and the amount of days rented.
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Re: How much does a CTS [lilengineerboy] by xrunner2
Jun 26, 2009 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jun 26, 2009 11:37 am)

So back in like, I dunno, the 80s, before Dodge made Neons, Al Gore singly had this idea for a way to interconnect "personal computers" around the world via this tool called "the internet."
 
Algore is a real stretch to reference on board for GM news.
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Re: How much does a CTS [xrunner2] by lilengineerboy
Jun 27, 2009 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jun 26, 2009 4:05 pm)

Al Gore is a real stretch to reference on board for GM news.
 
Whatever you know you chuckled.
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With GM finally dead... by m4d_cow
Jun 27, 2009 (8:11 am)
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What do you guys think will happen next to whatever's left of it?
 
Maybe it doesn't matter. Now that GM "escaped" through ch-11 route means it'll never return the bailout money. So until I see some extreme improvements no more GM cars, period.
 
To respond on some comments about the rented cars:
 
I've tried the G6, once. Wasn't impressed, it felt heavy and slow for it's size. On a plus note the interior was one of the best I've seen in a Pontiac.
 
I rented the CTS for a weekend trip, and while I wasn't impressed by the build quality and so called handling, the car was a good long distance cruiser. Soft suspension and pretty comfy seats worked well. Fuel economy raised an eyebrow though, once it recorded roughly 22-23 mpg, another time it plunged to 17-18mpg (all highway driving).
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Lemko's Buick by circlew
Jun 30, 2009 (6:56 am)
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Here is the reason Buick SHOULD NOT exist any longer. Forget about China. Lemko is the Last American Buick Hero.
 
A look at Buick's sales volume shows a division selling more than a half-million cars every year in the 1991-94 period, with a peak of 546,836 in 1994. After that, Buick not only never regained sight of those heights, but just four years later its volume slid to less than 400,000 units.
 
The totals bounced around for a few years, but then plunged steadily to a meager 185,791 in 2007, a low point if one charitably discounts the industry's dismal 2008, in which Buick sold just 137,197 vehicles -- barely a quarter of its volume in the mid-1990s.


 
Buick's market-share snapshot is the same: the division had endured a dropoff from its 4.4 percent share in 1991 to 2.8 percent by 1996, 1.8 percent by 2004 and 1 percent last year. Since 1991, Buick's market share fell in all but four years.
 

 
Now that it is one of the four surviving "new GM" divisions, what about Buick's portion of the corporate market share? As Led Zeppelin said, the song remains the same: in 1991, Buick accounted for 12.2 percent of GM's total sales. By 1995, the number was in single digits and has slid consistently to last year's 4.6 percent of GM share.
 
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OW
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Buick sales may rebound by xrunner2
Jun 30, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jun 30, 2009 6:56 am)

Don't write off Buick just yet.
 
If new Buick Lacross gets rave reviews from Edmunds, Car and Driver, Road and Track, Consumer Reports, etc., then that should boost showroom traffic. If the car is really very good, word-of-mouth will get out and sales will rise. If we see dealer markups and stupid add-on dealer accessories on cars in lots, then we know that Buick will have a hit. 2010 styling is decent and not milquetoast as is present version.
 
Buick quality has been reported better than most other GM brands. If 2010 gets the rave reviews, then Buick might capture some formerly foreign car buyers along with the Buick and GM faithful.
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Re: Buick sales may rebound [xrunner2] by gagrice
Jun 30, 2009 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jun 30, 2009 7:10 am)

Buick may get the bulk of the Pontiac buyers as well.
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Bottom Line by circlew
Jun 30, 2009 (7:48 am)
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Transitions Within Transitions
 
Numbers don't tell the entire story of GM's evolution over the past 18 years, but they do provide a thought-provoking snapshot of how its surviving divisions have performed not only through the company's nearly two-decade transition -- one that hosted a steady erosion of market share -- but also through several significant market epochs as well.
 
Based on the performance timeframe of this Edmunds.com data analysis, is the new GM really poised for success?
 
Any absolute answer is speculation, particularly considering the likelihood of a sputtering and volatile U.S. market for the foreseeable future.
 
But the indicators point to a Buick that has to find a strategy to reverse a decades-long slide, a GMC that, if it is to remain true to its hefty-truck heritage, is in discord with the market direction and a Cadillac that has yet to develop a successful and mature model range.
 
Maybe a workable formula for a new GM. Or maybe another whistlestop on the express track to the eventual downsizing many analysts say is inevitable: a GM consisting of Chevrolet and Cadillac.

 
One way or another, this will happen AFAIC. Concentration across 4 brands makes no sense in the new marketplace.
 
Regards,
OW

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