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Re: GM model news [andre1969] by lemko
Jun 24, 2009 (6:03 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 24, 2009 4:43 am)

When I saw the LaCrosse for the first time on Veteran's Day in 2004, I thought it was a quantum leap over the dismal Century. By 2004, the Century had HUGE numerals on the dashboard so the geriatrics could read the instruments. The interior was so barren and austere, a 1964 Chevrolet Biscayne would've seemed like a Lexus in comparison. I had a Century for a few days and the guard at my workplace stopped me because I had no sticker on the car. I explained to him, "This is a rental. Do you think I'd actually buy a car like this?" The guard laughed and waived me in. The last-generation Century was an awful namesake to the car that was once considered "The Banker's Hot Rod."
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Re: GM model news [lemko] by dieselone
Jun 24, 2009 (6:11 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 24, 2009 6:03 am)

When I saw the LaCrosse for the first time on Veteran's Day in 2004, I thought it was a quantum leap over the dismal Century.
 
No doubt about that. The only good thing about the Century was they seemed to be extremely reliable. That's about the only good thing I can say about it. Guess Century was a good name in the end, because that's how old it seemed.
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Re: Why GM Failed [circlew] by lemko
Jun 24, 2009 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jun 24, 2009 5:29 am)

Heck, I'll take any Buick over any BMW. A Buick is a lot prettier and I can depend on the Buick getting me to and from work. I also don't have to worry about the stratospheric maintenance and repair costs of that Teutonic tank. Also, I hate the image associated with BMWs. I'd rather be seen as a doddering old grandfather than an arrogant, status-seeking yuppie.
 
What really gets me about the 3-Series is why anybody would pay $30K+ for a teeny car that's smaller than a Corolla? For the same price or less, I can get a real car like a Buick Lucerne CXL or a Mercury Grand Marquis LS Ultimate
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Re: GM model news [dieselone] by lemko
Jun 24, 2009 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Jun 24, 2009 6:11 am)

I always thought "Century" referred to the average age of its drivers. The Regal was pretty redundant by 2004 as well. The Regal hadn't a real reason to exist since they dumped the super-beautiful RWD coupe after 1987. That FWD Regal was one of the STUPIDEST cars GM produced. They got rid of the awesome Grand National for this ugly little mediocre FWD travesty with the stupid door handles in the B-pillar? Yuck!!!
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Re: GM model news [andre1969] by lemko
Jun 24, 2009 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 24, 2009 4:43 am)

Park Avenues seemed to have held their value, at least around here. I was seeing 2003-2005 Park Aves going for $15K with over 100K miles. One knucklehead was asking $18K for a 2005 Park Ave with a really horrible repaint. Heck, I could see the overspray on the chrome bits and places where the car was masked! I would really, really love a 2005 Park Avenue Ultra with low miles in excellent condition - especially in that pearlescent white like my 2002 Cadillac Seville. I did find one once and it was snapped up quickly before I could get to the seller.
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Re: GM model news [lemko] by fezo
Jun 24, 2009 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 24, 2009 6:21 am)

I always thought "Century" referred to the average age of its drivers.
 
Correct. Olds did the same thing with the 88 and 98.
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LaX by tomcatt630
Jun 24, 2009 (7:31 am)
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Some old time GM fans are still upset about the name changes, but they simply like seeing all the old names on sales brochures for pride.
 
Regal sales were in the 'tur-let', and Centuries sold to the oldest drivers. Dealers were pushing them as 'Buicks at Chevy prices'. But that dilutes the image.
 
The 2010 LaX was needed 2 years ago, instead of the Aura. but at least it's weeks away.
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old names by tomcatt630
Jun 24, 2009 (7:41 am)
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Many names were moldy and needed to go, such as Chevette, Citation, Corsica, Celebrity, Vega
 
But the Cobalt name has now been a waste of time, since it only will last one generation.
 
Also, Lutz's idea of 'G#' names for Pontiac belly-flopped, such that brand is dead. Good thing he didn't kill Malibu!!
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Re: GM model news [fezo] by colloquor
Jun 24, 2009 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: fezo (Jun 24, 2009 6:46 am)

That's funny... but, almost true!
 
In reality, as most of you already know, here's the info on Olds model designations, credit to Wikipedia:
 
In the 1930s through the 1990s, Oldsmobile used a two digit model designation. As originally implemented, the first digit signified the body size while the second represents the number of cylinders. Body sizes were 6, 7, 8, and 9, and 6- and 8-cylinder engines were offered. Thus, Oldsmobiles were named 66 through 98.
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Re: GM model news [cadillacmike] by imidazol97
Jun 24, 2009 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: cadillacmike (Jun 23, 2009 9:55 pm)

>Lacrosse replaced LeSabre while Lucerne replaced Park Aveneue
 
LaCrosse replaced Century/Regal W bodies. The Lucerne replaced the H-bodied leSabre and Park Avenue. But the Lucerne has a wide delta between the lower-priced end with lower content and suspension and the upper end with Cadillac content and suspension; the low end was to attract LeSabre owners and the high end, Park Avenue owners.

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