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Replying to: dave8697 (Jun 23, 2009 3:13 pm) 3. Malibu That's a good result for the Malibu. |
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jun 23, 2009 3:13 pm) I've never factored warranty coverage in how I chose a vehicle and I never will. If I like the vehicle and I'm worried about reliability, I'll just buy a longer warranty. I wouldn't buy a G6 if it had a million mile bumper to bumper warranty.
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Replying to: dieselone (Jun 23, 2009 6:42 pm) For a while, VWs had a 2/24 warranty and that was enough to strike them off my list without even visiting a dealer. The New GM could make a splash by extending the drivetrain warranty like Hyundai did.
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 23, 2009 7:50 pm) I can see making that choice as they were essentially the same vehicle, but I'd bet you probably paid more for the Nissan, than the Mercury. I used to own a 2000 VW Jetta TDI that had the 2/24 warranty. That covered routine maintenance too, like oil changes etc. While I obviously used the maintenance plan, it never received any warranty work or cost me anything out of warranty.
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Replying to: dieselone (Jun 23, 2009 7:58 pm) Maybe, but I doubt it. They were pretty proud of their Lincoln logo attached to the showroom I think. But it's too long ago to remember though. That's when I found Edmunds and I shopped everything from a MPV, Windstar, Siennas to Odysseys. First time I discovered and used the Blast Fax method. So price loomed large. I used the Plymouth warranty on 3 blown head gaskets (otherwise it was a great van for us). Now VW touts their 12 year rust warranty which has won them some fans in New England. Of course, if you're at the dealer all the time, even a great warranty won't make you feel much better about the brand. |
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Replying to: dino001 (Jun 22, 2009 6:14 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 23, 2009 5:55 am) 
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Replying to: cadillacmike (Jun 23, 2009 9:50 pm) I'll give kudo's to the CTS all day long. I really like it. That said, I don't see how it's a better car than a 3 series based on objective terms outside of getting a bigger car for less money (even though I can't sit in the back seat of a CTS w/o my head touching the roof). I can see a case made either way. If you prefer performance, a 335 will best a CTS is almost every category. GM's 3.6 just doesn't have the powerband to match the 335's 3.0-twin-turbo. I'm not talking CTS-V vs M5. Plus, you can get a diesel 335 soon if you want performance and fuel economy. Now the STS is completely outclassed by a 5 series. Outside of styling, size and price, I don't know what a STS has over a 5 series. The Northstar isn't in the same universe as BMW's v8 in terms of power delivery, so outside of being a diehard GM fan and/or not being able to afford a 5 series, I don't know why one would want an STS other than being able to get it cheap.
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Replying to: cadillacmike (Jun 23, 2009 9:55 pm) Nah, the LaCrosse is still a midsize W-body. Actually, in the case of both the LaCrosse and Lucerne, Buick tried to, in the words of Sheriff Buford T. Justice, kill two possums with one rock. The LaCrosse filled in for both the Century and Regal, while the Lucerne took over for both the LeSabre and Park Avenue. In both cases though, I think the cars did move upscale a bit. For example, the cheapest LaCrosse is still a nicer car than the cheapest Century was, while the nicest LaCrosse seems more upscale than the old Regal GS. With the Lucerne though, I think it's more of a mixed bag. I definitely think the base Lucerne is nicer than the old LeSabre was, but somehow the old Park Ave just seemed to have more presence, more of a prestige factor I guess, than the top Lucerne does. Now the Lucerne gets bonus points for offering a V-8 engine, but then the Park Ave offered a supercharged V-6, so that might be a bit of a tossup.
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Replying to: dieselone (Jun 24, 2009 4:00 am) And I think that's probably why the STS really isn't selling. FWIW, on the rare occasion that I see one, I usually mistake it for a CTS. Even though it's a bigger car, at a quick glance, I really don't notice it. I have noticed that I can barely fit in the back seat of an STS, while I don't even try with the CTS, so that's about the only difference for me. Most people don't buy cars like this for a big back seat, though. If they want a comfy, roomy car, they're going to get a DTS.
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