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Replying to: carnaught (Jun 18, 2009 3:25 pm) Then of course the CTS and STS will need to be completely new both in terms of design and quality level with their prices also unchanged. In another words, current Cadillacs are really Buicks in terms of actual delivered experience vs market expectations. One could make similar argument for Chevy, i.e. current Buicks are really delivering Chevy experience, at least in larger vehicle segment. In other words, GMs major failure is pretending their current lineup is one class higher then it really is (and asking price that is in line with that pretence). The easiest way to fix it is fix their highest line (Cadillacs) and move everything else(vehicles, not names) into its proper position. Hence "rebadge".
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 22, 2009 5:51 am) |
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an email from local chevy dealer had a photo of it. All new inside and out. 2.2 N/A and 2.0 T engines retained at 160 and 260 HP. ESC added to base. All new interior looks to be a cross between new Malibu and it's Honda/Mazda competitors. I expect to see them at dealers on July 15th. The Malibu suits me fine for a next new car. Now that I commute less than 15 miles, 2.5L is small enough with $3 gas. I split my driving into 3 GM V6 and V8 cars and trucks and gas is $3.60-$4.85 a day ($2.72/g). The switch to a 4 cyl will get that under $3 a day. 32 mpg would get me to $2.50 a day. Is it going to be the 2010 Cobalt or Cruze?
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The G8 V8 gets mileage like a Hummer, so it's not staying. Some forget that CAFE is going to 35mpg+. [And who is willing to pay big gas taxes, instead?] Camaros and Vettes get better mileage and GM should preserve them instead. Also, the G8 fans are only buying them after huge discounts, hardly a good business model. The fans want to see v8 cars, but then don't buy. Or wait 10 years. Dream cars have to make $$ not just entertain fans at auto shows. Blame Obama? Well, the GOP would have let all of GM die, so the G8 would still have been canned. [And Holden would be SOL] |
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jun 22, 2009 7:57 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Jun 22, 2009 10:03 am)
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Buick's quality ranking did exactly what I thought it would once the old technology lackluster cars weren't around to boost the ratings. Many on here bragged about how Buick was up there with Lexus. No more. Buick is below average in the latest IQS study. Even below BMW, VW, Susuki, Kia, Hyundai and many others. Anyway, all is not bad, Cadillac did great coming in 3rd. Below Lexus and Porche.
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Replying to: dieselone (Jun 22, 2009 1:55 pm) Sadly though, it's not true. The 3 offerings right now are the Enclave, Lacrosse, and Lucerne. 2 of those (the cars) aren't new technology - they ride on 10-12 yr old platforms. |
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Malibu outsells Accord to fleets. Pontiac V8's are missing a highway gear. Buick didn't reinvent the platform anually. Porshe has better iq than Buick shame on everyone not driving a 35 mpg car. What was the Lacrosse predecessor in '97 as an all new platform?
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GM has announced it will offer a 2.4L engine in the 2010 LaCrosse with direct injection and 182hp, the first 4-cylinder Buick since the SkyLark. A smart and bold move. Welcome to the new GM.
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