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Re: G8 news [62vetteefp] by jae5
Nov 20, 2007 (5:07 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Nov 19, 2007 11:25 am)

Good point, I didn't think of GMC. But your right, if P/B/G, particularly G being touted as a premium truck brand, I don't think having a Ute will help matters. I maybe, possibly, might be able to see the Ute in Pontiac guise IF Pontiac promotes / markets the G8 as a range of vehicles, i.e. sedan, utility coupe, wagon??... In any event if P/B/G are moving up I think the Ute may cause a slight bump in the road.
 
I keep hearing rumblings about Holden doing a G6 replacement but nothing concrete. Things are slowing a little bit with everyone in holiday mode, but sure will pick a little after the new year, with the shows coming up and new product cycles.
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Re: GM stock [dieselone] by jae5
Nov 20, 2007 (5:14 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 19, 2007 2:38 pm)

I think it was a good move keeping a stake in GMAC. They basically played their hedge, figuring they will also garner a profit, whether big or small, from the financing arm. Kind of like 62 stated, housing is getting hit hard and is in a huge slump, but a very small number of people are able to get mortgages, and the market will rebound is a few years. Plus some still finance vehicles through GMAC. Again, with the stack they have a steady flow a cash; it may be a trickle sometimes, but a constant stream nonetheless.
 
And with the tax hit they took, they could use the cash to keep the momentum going! And who knows, they may later find themselves in a position to take back a majority stake.
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Re: G8 news [jae5] by 62vetteefp
Nov 20, 2007 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: jae5 (Nov 20, 2007 5:07 am)

Yes, it has been awhile here is the lineup: (my dream one with reality built in)
 
GMC:Premiuim upscale, (make Denali equipment standard)
Yukon, XL (hydrids available)
Pickups (hybrids available)
A nicer midsize pick up truck (hybrids available)
no large work van (chevy only)
 
Pontiac: All performance orientated in handling, power and appearance, for the single at heart
RWD G5 (replace G5 and Vibe with coupe, hatch)
RWD G6 (coupe, sedan, convertible)
RWD G8 (coupe, sedan, Ute)
RWD Solstice
FWD/AWD mid sized SUV
 
Buick: Gorgeous, styled, premium, comfortable, family
FWD LaCrosse
FWD Lucerne,
AWD Large Park Avenue
FWD/AWD Enclave
A convertible based on the Park. Large and lux
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Re: G8 news [62vetteefp] by rockylee
Nov 21, 2007 (2:29 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Nov 20, 2007 5:46 am)

So you think Buick, should stay FWD ???........Interesting....I admit I thought it might not be a bad idea and would distinguish themselves further from Cadillac.
 
-Rocky
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Re: G8 news [rockylee] by lemko
Nov 21, 2007 (5:24 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 21, 2007 2:29 am)

Well, Acura is pretty much all FWD. It doesn't hurt their image. I, personally, wouldn't mind seeing a nice big RWD Buick.
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Re: G8 news [rockylee] by 62vetteefp
Nov 21, 2007 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 21, 2007 2:29 am)

So you think Buick, should stay FWD
 
Yes, pretty much. Then again most buyers do not care if the horse is pushing or pulling so they could be FWD or RWD. I say this because there is no large FWD vehicle platforms are out there except the Lamda. So if GM wants a modern large platform they would have to use the Lamda and that may not make sense for one low volume vehicle (Park/Lucerne). So most likely the next large Buick will be RWD. Then again perhaps a new large FWD platform could be shared between Impala and Buick? May be worth the mods to Lamda?
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edit of my previous post by 62vetteefp
Nov 21, 2007 (6:17 am)
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So you think Buick, should stay FWD
 
Yes, pretty much. GM has the advantage/disadvantage of many well known brand marques. They really need to continue to differentiate them. Then again most buyers do not care if the horse is pushing or pulling so they could be FWD or RWD. I say this because there is no large FWD vehicle platforms are out there except the Lamda. So if GM wants a modern large platform they would have to use the Lamda and that may not make sense for one low volume vehicle (Park/Lucerne). So most likely the next large Buick will be RWD. Then again perhaps a new large FWD platform could be shared between Impala and Buick? May be worth the mods to Lamda?
 
So I still stick by my listing of what is best for GM in the lineup but it may not be the most realistic.
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If GM were mine to run... by bumpy
Nov 21, 2007 (8:24 am)
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I'd make Chevrolet FWD only except for the trucks, Corvette, and Camaro; Pontiac would be RWD cars only; Buick would be FWD luxury cars and CUVs, and Cadillac would be RWD luxury cars and CUVs (no more truck-based Escalade).
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Stock price drop explanation by 62vetteefp
Nov 21, 2007 (8:30 am)
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Pretty good explanation of GM's stock drop.
 
GM, to name the most obvious example, is exposed to the subprime mortgage meltdown through its 49 percent stake in GMAC, which lost $757 million in the third quarter alone. How much uglier it might get GM isn't saying.
Call it the Motown curse.
 
Just when Detroit's automakers looked like they were getting some traction -- critically acclaimed products, lower cash burn, landmark contracts with the United Auto Workers that remove billions in health care liabilities and improved competitiveness -- the national economy downshifts, threatening turnarounds at all three companies.
 
The Federal Reserve, in minutes released Tuesday of its Oct. 30-31 meeting, said it expects economic growth to slow next year, housing to remain soft (never a good thing for companies deriving meaningful profits from selling pickups to contractors) and oil prices to remain "appreciably higher."

 
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071121/OPINION03/711210392/1- 148/AUTO01
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Re: If GM were mine to run... [bumpy] by 62vetteefp
Nov 21, 2007 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Nov 21, 2007 8:24 am)

Cadillac would be RWD luxury cars and CUVs (no more truck-based Escalade).
 
except they have to keep some form of the Escalade because it just makes too much money to throw away.

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