Sign In Join 



GM News, New Models and Market Share

8674 messages,  Last post on Dec 08, 2009 at 10:02 AM

You are in the Automotive News & Views Forum. Your Hosts are steve_ & claires

What is this discussion about? Automotive News


Messages Page 6 of 868
1
...
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
...
868
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion

#51 of 8674
Re: G8 news [62vetteefp] by bumpy
Nov 19, 2007 (10:34 am)
Reply

Replying to: 62vetteefp (Nov 19, 2007 9:52 am)

Looks like Ute and Sportwagon are going to be Ponchos after all. I wonder if we'll get the Crewman?
#52 of 8674
Re: G8 news [62vetteefp] by jae5
Nov 19, 2007 (11:04 am)
Reply

Replying to: 62vetteefp (Nov 19, 2007 9:52 am)

'62,
 
Any reason why Poncho would get the 'Ute? I've waiting for that to come over as an Elky for years...
 
I guess Pontiac is the U.S. Holden arm, like Saturn is for Opel. So with this be the G8 Ute?
#53 of 8674
Re: G8 news [jae5] by 62vetteefp
Nov 19, 2007 (11:25 am)
Reply

Replying to: jae5 (Nov 19, 2007 11:04 am)

Any reason why Poncho would get the 'Ute? I've waiting for that to come over as an Elky for years...
  
I guess Pontiac is the U.S. Holden arm, like Saturn is for Opel. So with this be the G8 Ute?

 
Good question. In the article it actually said that GMC wanted it!! But I think that it is time GMC markets real trucks only (cancel Acadia in next go around and let Buick keep it). I think the issue is that the G8 type vehicles need to be more than a basic Chevy to make a good profit. If GM's strategy of GMC/Buick/Pontiac dealerships becoming mid range segments and Pontiac becoming the RWD division then the G8's can be more upscale performance. In fact I wonder if the Impala will continue as a FWD large vehicle?
 
As far as Pontiac becoming a Holden stable that may happen naturally if Pontiac goes RWD in all models. I believe Holden is also engineering the midsize G6 replacement?
 
If GM continues the strategies I see then there will be lots of differentiation between the traditional GM brands of yesteryear.
#54 of 8674
GM stock by dieselone
Nov 19, 2007 (1:25 pm)
Reply
I posted this on the other GM thread, but the stock is down another 8% today. It's down almost 40% since the new UAW contract was signed. Is GM really turning the ship around or only extending the inevitable (BK)?
 
The Malibu should sell well. Good looks, nice looking interior, good performance, competitive powertrain, along with a good warranty. I don't know if they can sell enough to really help GMs bottomline, but it will be interesting to see.
 
With gas prices I wonder how BOF SUV/trucks will continue to sell?
#55 of 8674
Re: GM stock [dieselone] by 62vetteefp
Nov 19, 2007 (1:32 pm)
Reply

Replying to: dieselone (Nov 19, 2007 1:25 pm)

Good questions. What has changed since the UAW contract? Pretty much nothing at GM except more green technolgy being announced and more presedential posturing on raising the CAFE. Gas prices have gone down a little. GM keeps selling more BOF SUV/trucks than last year. Biggest change is the economy is getting worse and houses keep dropping and the mortgage issues keep going. I think that if the economy keeps going down the investors are worried GM will have issues.
 
But from what I read the loss in GM stock value is almost all directly related to the possible issues at GMAC due to mortgage/home values. Not much to do with the auto industry directly. Not too long ago it was GMAC that supported the corporate bottom line, now it is dragging it down. Good thing GM only owns half now.
#56 of 8674
Re: GM stock [62vetteefp] by dieselone
Nov 19, 2007 (2:38 pm)
Reply

Replying to: 62vetteefp (Nov 19, 2007 1:32 pm)

But from what I read the loss in GM stock value is almost all directly related to the possible issues at GMAC due to mortgage/home values. Not much to do with the auto industry directly. Not too long ago it was GMAC that supported the corporate bottom line, now it is dragging it down. Good thing GM only owns half now.
 
I read the samething. To bad GM didn't unload 100% of GMAC. Still if they still have nearly 50% of GMAC on the books big mortgage write offs certainly will have a negative impact.
 
No doubt GMs new products seem to be competitive. Still some dead wood in the lineup, but hopefully they will continue to improve by replacing bad product with good instead of the old way of replacing bad product with more bad product.
#57 of 8674
Re: GM stock [dieselone] by 62vetteefp
Nov 19, 2007 (3:49 pm)
Reply

Replying to: dieselone (Nov 19, 2007 2:38 pm)

I read the samething. To bad GM didn't unload 100% of GMAC. Still if they still have nearly 50% of GMAC on the books big mortgage write offs certainly will have a negative impact.
 
But in 2 years there will be a bunch of folks getting mortgages and rushing in to buy homes at the just ending bear market. Home values will skyrocket and mortgage companies will rake in the money.
 
While the mortgage/housing market is not cyclical as the automotive it does have cycles.
#58 of 8674
Motor Trend's COTY by torque_r
Nov 19, 2007 (7:18 pm)
Reply
Motor Trend's Car of the Year: Cadillac CTS
#59 of 8674
GM lost $39 Billion in third quarter? by torque_r
Nov 19, 2007 (7:20 pm)
Reply
I've read something like GM lost $39 billions in third quarter as non-cash tax related expenses. What does that mean? Any idea?
#60 of 8674
Re: GM lost $39 Billion in third quarter? [torque_r] by 62vetteefp
Nov 19, 2007 (7:32 pm)
Reply

Replying to: torque_r (Nov 19, 2007 7:20 pm)

I am a bit confused because I am an engineer and not an accountant but it looks like GM took write offs for years because of losses and time ran out. You can only take them so long before you need to make money. I know that is true when I had a rental property. You could not lose money on it year after year and keep taking writeoffs. Supposedly it means nothing except GM does not see profits coming in soon.

Messages Page 6 of 868
1
...
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
...
868
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion
To POST a message, please Sign In.

New? Join Now!

Forum Tools

Please sign in.
Email Address:

Password:

Forgot Password?

Search Forums

Enter Keyword(s)

Advanced Search

Browse by Vehicle



View All Vehicles
Advertisement
Ask the Community
See What People Are Asking

Browse by Board

Browse by Topic


View All Topics

Today's Chats

Advertisement