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Replying to: lemko (Feb 19, 2009 10:17 am) It seems that you have quite a bit of overlap in your fleet, meaning you owned quite a few of them at the same time. Could it be you got a lot of "great" service simply because you didn't drive all of them all the time? Were there any one or two that you constantly drove and if so, were they hella reliable? My point is, and not trying to do an "I gotcha" or anything, you may have a high reliability rate simply because you rotated between the cars, actually putting less miles on them, than say someone who just had one or two cars at one time. Also, factors such as miles driven, type of miles driven, weather conditions, etc. can play into that too. By the way, you have me beat - only have had 6 GMs in my fleet, 8 overall so far.
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Replying to: andres3 (Feb 19, 2009 11:24 am) I had a 1993 leSabre and have a 1998 leSabre. They're from the 90s. I also had an '89 Century. >What about this decade? I have an '03 leSabre which is a toned down version of the STS that Lemko had. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Feb 19, 2009 3:24 pm) Interestingly, the two biggest problem spots on the Gran Fury were the starter and the carburetor. The carburetor was a Rochester Quadrajet, so I can blame GM for that. As for the starters? My mechanic told me it was the same unit used for the Honda Accord! I just find it amusing that the two biggest problem areas on that car were from non-Mopar parts!  As another aside, the Intrepid's air conditioning isn't working. And guess what? The Intrepid uses the same a/c components that the Honda Accord does! The newest GM car I ever had was a 1986 Monte Carlo, with a 305 V-8. My Mom bought it brand-new, and it was still running strong with 192,000 miles on it when I got t-boned while delivering pizzas one summer night in 1998. That was a good car...wish I still had it.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 19, 2009 3:59 pm) As another aside, the Intrepid's air conditioning isn't working. And guess what? The Intrepid uses the same a/c components that the Honda Accord does! Even if your mechanic was/is right and they were the same parts that they use on the Accord (from the same supplier and manufacturer at the same plant?), it doesn't mean anything. It is more likely than not that the Big 3 would purchase the B stock or discards or "return to vendor" parts that came back from Honda as unacceptable or unusable or defective. I wouldn't put that past the Big 3 any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
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Replying to: andres3 (Feb 19, 2009 2:27 pm) As for GM cars in the '90's, we've had a 94 Safari, bought new, had a sticky temp lever for the HVAC controls (lubed up) owned 2 yrs (wife didn't like RWD) a '96 Saturn SL2 no problems at all. Owned 3 yrs, traded for a '98 Jimmy (kids getting bigger). Ran that for 5 years and sold it to my BIL who ran it for 3 more. We had 1 problem, the latch ripped off the rear glass. My BIL replaced the cat and the computer. He spent over $1000 trying to repair it himself (no start condition) and it turned out to be a fuse. I also had a '91 GMC truck. Replaced a starter and alternator. That's it. They ran fine. My '99 PK Av Ultra has been fine for almost 7 years. Biggest expense; TIRES ($540). MAF sensor cost $250. Big deal. So, for me, GM cars of the '90's have been hit hit HIT!!!!!! |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Feb 19, 2009 3:24 pm) I'll take "cars that only my grandfather could love" for $100. Just kidding of course...
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Replying to: andres3 (Feb 19, 2009 4:10 pm) What a pantload THAT is!!! More than likely the V-6 in the Intrepid is a Mitsu engine. The same Mitsubishi that was in a load of trouble and Chrysler refused to bail out anymore. Even if you are right, then you can blame DR Z of Daimler for that, HE was in control |
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Replying to: andres3 (Feb 19, 2009 4:10 pm) Do you have any documentation for that silly allegation. |
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Replying to: dieselone (Feb 19, 2009 4:43 pm) Make fun all you want, but I've had cars that required minimum of maintenance, didn't have any high priced visits for 30, 60, 90,000 mile required checkups at the foreign car dealers and gave me a good comfortable ride for travel with economical motors. |
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1 new car in the 70's. 2 in the 80's and 1 in the 90's. My '87 Astro (got it used) was 11 yrs old and was the family vacation vehicle. So I broke down and got a new '98 Astro. Zero cost for first 5 years for it, like my '01 truck. I later bought 3 used 90's vehicles. Still have all 4 of them and 170k, 106k, 115k, and 114k are on them. They all are 100% rust free. The '98 just handled 5 adults on 950 mile ski trip with 6 sets of equip, 2 coolers, and luggage for all with room to spare and managed 20 mpg. I didn't even use the roof rack. Last repair was about 4 yrs ago (a/c line). It's the same age (11) that the '87 was when my wife wanted a new one, but she is still very happy with this one. The van still looks new inside and out. She gets 14 mpg out of it in winter going to the stores and back, a 9 mile round trip. It has lost 90% of we paid for it in depreciation but still looks and runs like new except for a couple hwy mpg. My favorite from 90's is a '96 Riv which has the most comfortable seats I know to exist. Under $1000 spent besides tires and oil changes to put 82000 miles on it in last 5 years I've had it. Buick was second only to Lexus in initial quality in '96. Buick's only fault was the paint prep that showed up in 10th year when the trade in was less than $1800 anyway. It has 18 cu ft trunk that will fit a 46" by 48" box.
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