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Replying to: lemko (Feb 19, 2009 6:39 am) Dunno...my grandparents on my Dad's side of the family had a '75 Swinger. They never seemed the type to do something like that, although I've heard that Grandmom could be a bit of a flirt back in the day.  Dunno how true this is, but I heard that when it was in its planning stages, Mopar marketing was actually thinking about calling the Demon the Beaver! And they even had a little cartoon character worked up for it! I can just imagine all the double entendres a name like that would have created. "Hey, I just got a new Beaver! Want to go for a ride with me?" 
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Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 19, 2009 7:11 am) |
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 19, 2009 6:36 am) Time will tell how my Expedition holds up, but so far it has exceeded my expectations, not something I can say for any GM vehicle I've had the displeasure to drive. I don't think all GM vehicles are junk, but seems there are more losers than winners.
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Replying to: dieselone (Feb 19, 2009 8:14 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 19, 2009 8:17 am) Tradition and Rose colored glasses? I had good luck with GM until I bought a 2005 GMC PU Truck. Maybe the cars have gained ground. The trucks have gone down hill since peaking in the 1990s. All prior ones were built in Mexico and Canada, that could be the reason also. |
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As I said before GM's worst-case scenario, was simply a high number they picked, as it makes it easier to prove "viability" to the government. It's nothing more than their continued unsubstantiated optimism that they won't need more handouts. http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2009-02-18-new-car-truck-sales-sink_N.htm GM's plan should be for a market of 8-8.5M vehicles this year, and no more than 9M next year. They need to size themselves (at normal operations) for that NOW, not 4 months from now; certainly not wait until next year. If the market is slightly better they can work a little OT.
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 19, 2009 8:17 am) Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Feb 19, 2009 10:07 am) My first car - a 1968 Buick was purchased by myself in 1981 and was still in the family in late 1992. I had a 1979 Buick Park Avenue which I totalled in an accident in May 1989. A 1979 Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight Regency that went 148K miles but was destroyed by a careless driver in a box truck in 1991. A 1975 Cadillac Sedan DeVille I sold to a friend of my Dad's in May 1993. A 1987 Chevrolet Caprice Classic from which I traded-up to my 1989 Cadillac Brougham. I had a 1994 Cadillac DeVille purchased new which I traded for a new 2002 Cadillac Seville STS which in turn I traded for a new 2007 Cadillac DTS Performance.
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Replying to: kernick (Feb 19, 2009 9:47 am) You'll have to forgive me but I assumed these guys were professional. I would have used 9.5 MM SAAR and 10.0 for next year. That pegs any possible payback well into the future. This bailout is going to get quite sticky, indeed. There is no viability as far as I'm concerned, just a bailout-addicted system that we've signed on to. Remember these last words...there is nothing too big to fail. Roman Empire, anyone? Hitler? Regards, OW |
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