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How did GMC escape the axe?
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Replying to: michaell (Feb 18, 2009 8:12 am) But you bring up a good point. I think GM will have more details in March. |
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Replying to: fintail (Feb 18, 2009 9:07 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Feb 18, 2009 8:22 am) Stand-alone Plymouth dealerships were always rare, and probably almost non-existent since Chrysler restructured in 1960 to form Dodge and Chrysler-Plymouth divisions. Before 1960, Plymouths were usually sold through Dodge dealerships, DeSoto dealerships, or Chrysler/Imperial dealerships. So even though Plymouth folded, the Chrysler-Plymouth dealerships were still there. Also towards the end, most Plymouths were just clones of other cars anyway. The Plymouth and Dodge Neons were identical. The Plymouth Voyager became the Chrysler Voyager, and was sold for another year or two, before being dropped. The Plymouth Prowler became the Chrysler Prowler. And the Plymouth Breeze was dropped when the "cloud cars" redesigned for 2001. I imagine Olds and Saturn might be a bit more difficult though, as they're a bit unique compared to the other GM divisions. |
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Replying to: dtownfb (Feb 18, 2009 9:21 am) |
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Replying to: michaell (Feb 18, 2009 8:12 am) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: michaell (Feb 18, 2009 8:33 am) yes, that's what I was thinking. And of course I had forgotten that the new Equinox is essentially a rebadged Vue, so of course the Chevy dealer will have that one well in hand. As for the L, well you get at least 2 more full years of factory service, and it's a good heads-up to go back to Ford when you replace it. Or try out Hyundai or Chevy next time around.... Even with Saturn gone and Hummer and Saab all but gone, GM is still too big with too many brands.... |
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Replying to: ingvar (Feb 18, 2009 5:43 am) |
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When the government bailed out Chrysler Corp. in the 80's, it stressed every capitalistic bone in my body. When they gave UAW President Doug Frasier a seat on the board of directors, the same bones were screaming, "Foul!" I was wrong. Chrysler paid back the loan ahead of schedule and I think we'd have certainly missed their products and innovations in the last quarter century. Now we're looking at another round of government intervention and it appears rather small in light of the staggering numbers that have been thrown around in recent months, but the numbers aren't really small. If you have a million dollars in a pile of bills a foot tall, a billion dollars will be 1000 feet high, roughly a 100 story skyscraper. GM is asking for 15 of these. But, that's actually only $50 apiece for every man, woman and child in the US. For my immediate household, that would be $250. I say we go ahead and help the General and Mrs. Motors. After all, the oil companies, banks, 401k and insurance companies rip that from me every few days. At least Generous Motors gives you a choice to buy their product or not. The fact that all 3 of the GM vehicles in my household turn 10 this year, not rusty, running and affordably repairable shows me they must be doing something right. The media seems to grope for bad news and lately can only seem to find one spokesman for the entire industry, former GM Chairman Ed Cole's son David. Well, David, since they're all coming to you, tell 'em we all love cars and at one time or another have crossed all company lines to admire if not to buy. You can also tell them that the day I worry about General Motors is the day I can't even buy a life of my own.
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I was wrong. Chrysler paid back the loan ahead of schedule and I think we'd have certainly missed their products and innovations in the last quarter century. I know that the only people who'd have missed Chrysler's products and innovations (a misnomer if there ever was one) in the last quarter century would be all the repair, service, and maintenance shops that got rich off of Chrysler clunkers and  's. Also, the tow truck drivers getting rich off of hooking up Chrysler's every day would certainly have missed the last 25 years of Chryslers. But other than service managers, repair shop owners, and tow truck company owners and drivers, I can't imagine ANYONE not regretting the decision to bailout Chrysler before, when they darn well knew it would have to be done again in the near future (December 2008 to be exact), and a third time in March of 2009. I for one, would certainly be a much happier and richer (financially) person had I bought a used Civic instead of that money pit of what Chrysler called the "new" Dodge in the mid-Nineties!  
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