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Replying to: gs42 (Feb 17, 2009 7:46 pm) This kind of tied into my thinking yesterday while watching Wagoner, Young and Henderson during the press conference. The plan is to come out of this with Chevy, Buick, Caddy and GMC as core brands, with Pontiac being a niche brand. Also, they backed off their 2011 turn-around to 2012, as well as starting to look to Brazil again, which is scary (though not as scary as the Chrysler/Fiat tie-up). Lastly they seem to be falling into the "cut employees to become profitable" trap. Overall appears they are doing a Chapter 11 restructuring without going into Chapter 11. What is GMC other than rebadged Chevrolets (not counting the Class 4/5/6 trucks)? If they are going to keep GMC, does this mean Chevy just produces cars? I would have preferred they keep Saturn, this could be their "green" division, you know, kind of keep that "a different kind of car company / division" philosophy. They could have regular, Red Line for performance and Green Line for green, i.e. gas-misers, hybrids, plug-ins. This could also be their Opel import line as it is now. Pontiac could be kept niche or better yet folded into Chevy and perhaps Buick - these can be the SS models for Chevrolet, GS / T-Type for Buick. GMC could be treated the same way. Chevy could have "Professional Grade" options on trucks & SUVs, with Buick getting the CUVs. This help eliminates the overlaps they now have. Saab is pretty much history, Hummer is the big ?? |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 17, 2009 3:21 pm)
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who know my interest in cars have been discussing these bailouts with me lately. A very common theme in their comments is that they will make a point of NOT buying vehicles from any company that is taking tax dollars like GM and Chrysler are. The feeling seems to be that they would like the domestic automakers to have to face the music just like everybody else. And now GM wants HOW many more BILLIONS???? Time for the government restructuring. I think Ford has been very smart in mortgaging everything to the hilt so as not to take taxpayer bailout money.
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 18, 2009 7:22 am) unfortunately leads to And now GM wants HOW many more BILLIONS???? They didn't get the money one way, so they figure they're entitled to it this way. And between CEOs padding Republican pockets, and the UAW padding Democrat pockets, they'll probably get it no matter who we elect. You're right about Ford being smart, they're earning all kinds of goodwill that will lead to future profits. I don't think GM is noticing how angry they're making the customer base that they supposedly want buying their cars. |
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| ...I will still buy GM cars. I love their cars, I could care less about the politics. | |
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 18, 2009 7:35 am) Mine (Saturn) is ... wonder what will happen after 2012? Will my dealer still be around? Where will I go with my three Saturns ('08 Vue, '06 ION & '03 L300) for service? Ah, well. |
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Replying to: michaell (Feb 18, 2009 8:12 am)  Not with the Ion, of course. But your local Chevy dealer will probably be able to work on that one for you. |
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Replying to: michaell (Feb 18, 2009 8:12 am) There are opportunities here for Saturn service managers and/or mechanics who have entrepreneur capabilities to open new service businesses that would include Saturn.
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 18, 2009 7:35 am) I am very mad, I want out so bad!! I will not be back to GM. I never wanted this GM car. (long story). |
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Not with the Ion, of course. But your local Chevy dealer will probably be able to work on that one for you. I suspect that the Chevy dealer could also work on the VUE, since it has the 3.6L V6 and 6-speed transmission. The ION is, for all intents and purposes, a Chevy Cobalt (2.2L 4-banger with the 4-speed auto). That is assuming, of course, that I even have a local dealer. There is a Chevy dealer in the town I live in, but, with the contraction of dealers going on, it wouldn't surprise me if it ultimately closed. The next closest dealer is about 10-12 miles away. It's the L300 that I'm worried about ... it's got 78K on it and has the 3.0L 54-degree V6 from Europe. I'm hoping to get a couple more years out of it before I look for a new car, so perhaps a 2012 fold date would work OK for me ....
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