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Replying to: lemko (Jan 29, 2009 6:06 am) Hardest car I remember to get plugs changed. Regards, OW
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Replying to: plekto (Jan 29, 2009 9:13 am) 
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Oh please, why bother with useless overpriced items like built in NAV? Instead, focus on making a better car for the money. Those who must have NAV will be better served with Garmin. Much better, easier to operate than many factory installed nav systems out there. Not to mention cheaper. 
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Looks like GM is trying to get Saab production all back to Sweden to separate Saab from the rest of GM at least as far as assembly goes. Kinda strange though building cars in Europe that are going to China. Then again this is just rumors. Does make it sound like they are going to build Buicks in Sweden???? GM might make a swap in its European production plans, shifting Buick assembly to Opel and Saab assembly to Sweden. Names of the models in question haven't been mentioned, but the Opel Insignia, Chinese-spec Buick Regal and coming Saab 9-5 are all built on GM's Epsilon II platform. The original plan was to produce the Saab 9-5 in Sweden, and Saab has been studying the Trollhatten factory's viability for the task. Factory representatives at the Russelsheim plant have also been lobbying for more cars to produce, thinking the operation underutilized, and they would certainly be building more Buicks than Saabs. And if other rumors are correct, it would keep siblings that GM plans to bring closer together - Opel and Buick - under the same roof. The swap, which would mean not building any new Saabs in Germany, would also send 9-3 production to Sweden. Sending 9-5 production there as well could also be seen as another step in extricating Saab from GM's web to assist in efforts to find a buyer for the brand.
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 29, 2009 10:06 am) I had a 71 Mustang convertible in HS with 351 Cleveland and while tight, I didn't have to remove anything to get the plugs out. I remember the drivers side being worse with the master cylinder and powersteering etc. I don't remember the changes made in '71 or the physical differences between a 351W vs 351 C. |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 29, 2009 10:30 am) Those who must have NAV will be better served with Garmin. Much better, easier to operate than many factory installed nav systems out there. Not to mention cheaper. Because some people want: - A bigger screen than available on a portable - No wires hanging all over the dash - No worrying about battery life (see wires) - Integration with the car speakers (also see wires) - Integration with the stereo for cool unneeded effects to distract us while driving - to be able to play DVDs when parked And those that want this may also be willing to shell out for it. If they weren't willing to, no one would offer in-dash nav systems. Case closed. |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 29, 2009 10:37 am) Of course all above is rumors. Why would they build the Buick in Germany when the Delta is being built here. |
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 29, 2009 7:21 am) And if most of the other cars aren't selling enough of the item to worth the cost of carrying it as a separate item, a manufacturer concentrating the product quality shouldn't be panned because they didn't waste money rearranging the dash and innards to have that seldom-purchased option. Period. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 29, 2009 12:31 pm) If that were true then they WOULDN'T be offering it as an option, now would they?  Apparently Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Subaru, and Ford found that it's cost-effective to offer it as an option in their midsizers. So the question remains: why hasn't GM? Is it because they'd rather sell OnStar (which is just like having your friend read you directions, only you get to pay for it)? Because they just don't care about measuring up to the competition? I'm not 100% certain on this (correct me if I'm wrong) but I'm fairly sure the Malibu uses a 1.5 or double-DIN standard-shaped stereo. They could buy an in-dash nav OFF THE SHELF and offer it in the thing if that's so...the cost of offering it as an option is minimal, especially compared to guys like Toyota and Honda with their weird dash setups. |
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 29, 2009 1:10 pm)
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