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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 28, 2009 6:22 pm) That brings back memories. My brother wore out the front tires on one of those in 5000 miles |
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 28, 2009 3:37 pm)
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 28, 2009 6:18 pm) |
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 28, 2009 6:22 pm) I remember having a rental Corsica. It was OK for what it was but I only had to live with it for a week. It was fast enough. I managed to get a ticket in that week... To give a fair evaluation the 97 Malibu was a clear improvemnt over that Corsica. |
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 28, 2009 7:05 pm) Not sure of your point. Malibu, an otherwise pretty good car, doesn't offer built-in NAV like just about every other car in the segment. Add-ons have wires. GM should have offered this as an option. My Mazda 5 offers it. The Honda Fit offers it. Why not GM on one of their best cars? 
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 28, 2009 7:05 pm) 2 or 3. Power, audio, and optionally traffic update antenna. Otherwise you're running off of internal battery and using the internal speaker, rather than running on engine power and going through the speakers in the car. The question remains, why did GM choose to not offer an in-dash nav option? They're leaving sales on the table that way.
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 29, 2009 3:12 am)
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 28, 2009 6:18 pm) With Job Banks GM paid about 95% of the income to the job banked person for 2 years. This was an agreement years ago to allow GM/Ford/Chrysler, by the UAW, to put more automation in the assembly plants until they could be put back to work. However sales dropped for GM (and Ford/Chrysler) and they still had many in the job banks. Recently that 95% pay has dropped to around 85%. And the number in the job banks has fallen to 1600 people. (less than one plants worth) Now the laid off employee gets state unemployment insurance and something called sub pay from the manufacturer to supplement the unemployment insurance. This sub pay is temporary and I am not sure how long it last. OK it is 48 weeks. This sub pay was put in place because of the way this industry used to work. There were often temporary shut downs for changeovers, etc. that could last months at a time. When 48 weeks of unemployment and SUB pay are exhausted, the workers will move into GM’s Jobs Bank and return to full pay for a maximum of two years. While in the Jobs Bank, workers must accept job transfers to other GM facilities or be cut completely from the automaker’s wage and benefits programs. About 1,600 workers will now be classified as laid off and must apply for state and federal unemployment benefits. Workers will receive some GM-subsidized payments along with their unemployment benefits, which means they will continue to earn about 72% of their pay. GM is also in talks with the United Auto Workers to end its "sub pay" contributions, GM spokesman Tony Sapienza said. a little explanation. The SUB Plan is a benefit provided in the collective bargaining agreement between Ford and the UAW. As its name implies, the SUB Plan offers eligible laid off workers extra unemployment benefits during temporary production downturns, to supplement state or federal unemployment benefits. SUB Plans were created in the UAW's 1955 collective bargaining agreement with Ford, General Motors, and Chrysler. The Ford SUB Fund is funded solely by contributions from Ford based on a formula set forth in the Plan. 10 Employees accumulate credit units based upon actual weeks worked up to a maximum of 52 credits. When employees are laid off, they surrender credit units to receive SUB benefits. The number of credit units required to obtain a benefit for any given week is a function of the level of the Fund, the credit unit cancellation base and the employees' seniority. As the SUB Fund level and the credit unit cancellation base decrease, less senior employees surrender more credit units than more senior employees. If the credit unit cancellation base drops below a level set forth in the Plan, employees with less than 10 years' seniority are not entitled to any SUB benefits. 11 An employee has no unqualified right to receive SUB benefits; the SUB Plan expressly states that "No person shall have any right, title or interest in or to any of the assets of the Fund...." Nevertheless, to the extent that funds are available, an eligible laid off employee is entitled to receive--and Ford is obligated to pay--SUB benefits.
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Replying to: scwmcan (Jan 29, 2009 4:02 am) But I do have one in my Enclave and I love it. Would probably not buy another vehicle w/o it. Also the new Lacrosse, which is on the same EPS architecture (updated) does have nav available. I just tried to build a Camry and I had to get the SE or XLE to have nav available and it was $3500 with the JBL system forced with it. With an XLE the same packager was $2900. If I got the V6 with the XLE it was $2800. Seems pretty expensive.
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