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Re: GM Spending at Daytona [m4d_cow] by andre1969
Jan 28, 2009 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 28, 2009 9:48 am)

Alas, extra size goes totally wasted on the Impala then. I never tried the Impala's backseat, only the front during a test drive. I was quickly unimpressed and left the car immediately without trying the backseat.
 
In my opinion, Chevy has had this problem for awhile now. I remember when the 1997 Malibu came out, replacing the Corsica. The local Chevy dealer had a Malibu and a Lumina in their showroom. I sat in both of them, and swear the Malibu head better legroom, both front and rear. It also seemed to have a bigger trunk. Now the Lumina was wider inside, so I guess the Lumina was better suited holding 5-6 shorter people, whereas the Malibu would be better if you had 4 tall people.
 
When the 2000 Impala came out, it seemed like it was roomier up front, but the back was still tight. And somehow, they managed to make the 2006+ Impala feel tighter, which surprises me since it's just a restyle rather than an all new design.
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Re: GM Spending at Daytona [anythngbutgm] by 62vetteefp
Jan 28, 2009 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jan 28, 2009 8:53 am)

Malibu was 25% rental fleet
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Re: GM Spending at Daytona [bpizzuti] by tlong
Jan 28, 2009 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 28, 2009 4:03 am)

One GM screwup: Malibu is the only one of the aforementioned "major" midsize sedan offerings that DOESN"T offer an in-dash nav system
 
That's surprising, considering you can get factory nav on a Civic and a Fit.
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Re: GM Spending at Daytona [andre1969] by m4d_cow
Jan 28, 2009 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 28, 2009 10:15 am)

It reminds me of the good ol' Dodge Intrepid. Arguably the longest regular large car I've ever seen (If I remember correctly it was 204" in length). Looked nice, sleek and all, then you stepped inside... where's the room?
 
You're so right about the room issue, it's been a problem with pretty much all domestics and they're still not getting it right....
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Re: GM Spending at Daytona [62vetteefp] by tlong
Jan 28, 2009 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 28, 2009 7:46 am)

Malibu was up 40% for '08.
 
That's because it went from lousy to at least competitive. A good start.
 
But to OW's point, to GAIN rather than LOSE market share, GM needs to hit home runs. Not just be competitive. I applaud the improvements but they need to set the bar much higher.
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Re: Job Cuts [lemko] by tlong
Jan 28, 2009 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 28, 2009 7:46 am)

Funny. I was just in Aliso Viejo (sp?) in Orange County last year and I was surprised how MANY domestics I seen on the road compared to what I was led to believe from Edmunds posters. I even saw a white Buick Park Avenue similar to mine in Los Angeles.
 
I think you spelled it right!
It's not that there are not any US makes on the road (just like there are J3 makes in MI), there are just not that many. Plus there in Orange County you have the big Leisure World -- perhaps some of the Buicks you saw came from there?
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Re: GM Spending at Daytona [tlong] by bpizzuti
Jan 28, 2009 (11:15 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 28, 2009 10:54 am)

Even Hyundai offers an in-dash nav in the Sonata. Either GM doesn't feel the need or they'd prefer to sell OnStar...I see the point behind preferring to sell OnStar, as a subscription is more continuing income, but when you have Fusion, Accord, Camry, Sonata, and Altima offering a Nav option, and Malibu not...and someone comes around considering that they might want in-dash Nav, they're going to bypass the GM dealer.
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Re: GM Spending at Daytona [bpizzuti] by tlong
Jan 28, 2009 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 28, 2009 11:15 am)

Even Hyundai offers an in-dash nav in the Sonata. Either GM doesn't feel the need or they'd prefer to sell OnStar...I see the point behind preferring to sell OnStar, as a subscription is more continuing income, but when you have Fusion, Accord, Camry, Sonata, and Altima offering a Nav option, and Malibu not...and someone comes around considering that they might want in-dash Nav, they're going to bypass the GM dealer.
 
I hope it's not the case that the OnStar group within GM is putting political pressure on the company to NOT make a factory Nav available, rather than looking at the big picture and trying to put out the best products. I could see that situation happening; companies of all types must fight local optimization (in this case, a feature they want to sell) vs. overall product optimization (increase Malibu sales).
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Re: GM Spending at Daytona [tlong] by fezo
Jan 28, 2009 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 28, 2009 11:21 am)

I think OnStar has become another decent idea that GM let die on the vine. It was, at one point, a good feature to sell with. It doesn't offer enough to be so anymore unless the ability of the operator to unlock your car is something you desperately need.
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GM job banks by 62vetteefp
Jan 28, 2009 (3:14 pm)
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General Motors Corp. plans to end Monday its controversial jobs bank
   program, which paid UAW workers who were not working, the company said
   today.
 
   The moves come as GM and Chrysler are racing to get concessions from
   labor and other stakeholders as required under the terms of the $17.4
   billion federal rescue of the two companies.
 
   The 1,600 UAW workers in GM’s jobs bank will be placed on layoff and
   must apply for unemployment. Between a mixture of unemployment and
   company pay, they will then receive about 72% of their normal
   compensation, GM spokesman Tony Sapienza said.
 
   “We are confirming that as of Monday, Feb. 2, we are ending the jobs
   bank,” Sapienza said. “Effective Monday, anyone that’s in the jobs bank
   goes immediately into layoff.”
 
   The federal loans to GM and Chrysler called for the "elimination of the
   payment of any compensation or benefits to U.S. employees of the company
   or any subsidiary who have been fired, laid-off, furloughed, or idled,
   other than customary severance pay."
 
   GM indicated that with the elimination of jobs bank it believes the
   company is meeting that requirement. However, the automaker noted that
   talks are still underway.
 
   “This allows us to put a portion of our unemployment costs to the
   states, as most companies traditionally do,” Sapienza said. “The terms
   of the loan agreement say that our severance policy has to be in line
   with what is customary. We believe this is in line with customary
   severance and layoff policy. … We are continuing to work with our union
   partners to discuss other elements of the bridge loan and the things we
   still need to do.”

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