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Re: GM Nuggets [bpizzuti] by lemko
Jan 15, 2009 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 15, 2009 10:12 am)

Chrysler was once the dominant police car builder. I understand the best police car of all time was the 1969 Dodge Polara used by the California Highway Patrol. Philadelphia used to have a lot of the M-body Gran Furies and Dodge Diplomats. During most of the 1970s, Philly used Plymouths except for 1978 when they used Chevrolet Impalas.
 
The Philadelphia Police Department has all kinds of police cars - Chevrolet Impalas, Ford Crown Vics, and the Dodge Chargers used by the highway patrol division. They even have a few Ford Explorers.
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Most Awesome Police Car of All Time!!! by lemko
Jan 15, 2009 (10:29 am)
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Re: GM Nuggets [bpizzuti] by andre1969
Jan 15, 2009 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 15, 2009 10:12 am)

The Charger made an awesome police car too, and look where it got Chrysler.
 
Problem with the Charger police car is that the Hemi version is too expensive to really be competitive. Most police-spec Chargers, and Magnums, are just the 3.5 V-6. It's about on par with the Crown Vic V-8 or Impala police cars when it comes to performance, but when you factor in performance, cheap-to-fix, price, rugged durability, etc, the Crown Vic usually comes out on top.
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Re: [lemko] by circlew
Jan 15, 2009 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 15, 2009 10:06 am)

Yes, Bonnie and Clyde but they got caught at the first bank job because the FWB head gasket blew!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: [lemko] by bumpy
Jan 15, 2009 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 15, 2009 10:06 am)

That inconsistency is what really doomed GM in the '80s and '90s. One Brougham or Lumina might run for 300k (whether or not you'd want it to is another matter), but the next three on the line would blow a water pump at 50k. The buyer had no way to tell them apart, so the buyers who got a bad one said to hell with it and bought an Accord or LS400 the next time around.
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Sales predictions downward by tlong
Jan 15, 2009 (11:49 am)
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NEW YORK – General Motors Corp. is cutting its 2009 industrywide U.S. sales forecast to 10.5 million vehicles.
 
The Detroit automaker previously said it expected industrywide sales of about 12 million for the year, with 10.5 million seen as a worst-case scenario for the industry. It revised its prediction in an analyst conference Thursday where Chief Executive Rick Wagoner is speaking.
 
U.S sales fell to 13.2 million in 2008, down 18 percent from 16.1 million in 2007.

 
But we know according to GM they have enough bailout money for the worst-case scenario, right?
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Re: Sales predictions downward [tlong] by 62vetteefp
Jan 15, 2009 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 15, 2009 11:49 am)

Well, if the now expected sales of 10.5 million is reached then yes. If it goes to the new worst case ?????? maybe not.
 
This got out fast. Wagoner is still discussing with the analysts right now.
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Re: [circlew] by fezo
Jan 15, 2009 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 15, 2009 11:24 am)

I remember hearing a past Chairman at Chrysler describing exactly that sort of thing. He said that maybe a third of their vehicles would stand up with the Japanese in terms of reliability, that another big chunk would be perfectly fine cars but not up to that standard and that the rest were dogs and he didn't know why. These would be the same model cars coming off the same assembly line.
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Then why is it... by lemko
Jan 15, 2009 (12:41 pm)
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...that every single GM car I had was one of those that would go for 100Ks of miles? I can't possibly be THAT lucky - at least according to what you folks are saying!
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Re: Then why is it... [lemko] by andre1969
Jan 15, 2009 (12:48 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 15, 2009 12:41 pm)

...that every single GM car I had was one of those that would go for 100Ks of miles?
 
Well for the most part, Lemko, you've tended to pick the cream of the crop when it comes to GM cars. Those late 70's C-bodies with the 403 and THM400 tranny were probably about the best cars out there at the time. And your '89 Brougham's 307 is essentially just a smaller displacement version of that Olds smallblock (sounds weird calling a 403 a smallblock!)
 
With your Park Ave, I think you lucked out in finding one that had been well taken care of, and you continue to pamper it. How many miles did your '75 Sedan Deville have on it when you got rid of it? Didn't you sell that one to a brother or cousin or something? That's another one that was really sturdy in the driveline department, although they were weak in rust resistance, and if it had fuel injection, that could be troublesome.

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