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Replying to: dieselone (Jan 14, 2009 6:29 am) If corporate says the one dealer should be able to service they other makes, then they should. If they can't, then the right and left hands should gets their respective acts together and get on the same page. Likewise, if GM is not going to require that those dealers be able to service any GM model, then THEY needs to spell that out, instead of saying any GM dealer should be able to fix it in an emergency. Toyota and Lexus don't have this problem...primarily because toyotas go to toyota dealers, instead of Chevy's going to Pontiac or Saturn dealers (or trying to). Yet another pitfall of having TOO MANY BRANDS!! ARE YOU BLEEPING LISTENING TO ME GM??? |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 14, 2009 6:43 am) |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 14, 2009 4:55 am) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: dieselone (Jan 14, 2009 6:29 am) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 14, 2009 6:43 am) You need to get out more. You need a lawyer and a financial adviser when you go for service at my GMC dealer! Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 14, 2009 4:22 am) what if all airlines that are losing money were liquidated through bankruptcy. That would leave a few carriers. how would we all like it if then there were a 1 in 10 chance we could fly to a desired destination? Would anybody support a bailout of the airlines or would I-75 and I-95 become parking lots? What would happen to the D3 when rental fleets at airports were just sitting? Since they are such bad cars would it not matter? I think hybrids are not the final solution and GM is smart enough to know that as well. To make money selling them, $4k has to be added to the car price. The interest on the extra $4k is $280 a year. The ins. is probably another $200 a year, the $4k spread over 60 months is another $66 a month, and in my state there is $280 more sales tax in year one and an excise tax of about $50 a year for many years on the extra $4k. Bottom line is they don't pan out unless you drive 25k miles a year and gas stays out of it's current price slump. Then you still only have a very marginal savings and may have given up some utility to get it. |
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 14, 2009 9:31 am) Regards, OW
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 14, 2009 9:31 am) I thought the two-mode hybrid was more like an additional $10K, so your figures are very conservative. It's not worth it. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 13, 2009 3:47 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 14, 2009 9:31 am) Maybe not, but Toyota managed to find 241 thousand takers last year alone. And if GM were "smart enough", they wouldn't have slapped a few of their own pathetic attempts together to try and compete for those sales. They also would have been even smarter if they stuck to their guns and stayed out since they were neither up to snuff (underperforming compared to thier non-hybrid counterparts) and had big problems with battery leaks. |
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