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by m4d_cow
Jan 13, 2009 (6:51 am)
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Any GM dealer will cover any GM work
 
Sure they will, but will they honor the differences in contract and warranty? Another question, even if the dealer will cover it, will GM cover it?
 
Not from what I see. Check this out:
 
My neighbor got his 07 Escalade broke down in the middle of nowhere in Idaho, but managed to drive it a bit to the nearest town. Alas, the town had no Cadillac service center, so he stopped at local GMC dealer for assistance. The mechanic told him the rear suspension broke down, and sparepart was avaliable there, but he wouldn't replace it in fear that the Slade might lose it's warranty.
My neighbor then called Cadillac for assistance, which rep simply said they couldn't dispatch any roadside assistant because it was "too far from nearest service center". The rep then "talked to his manager", who took over and told him it's ok to temporarily replace it with the GMC Denali suspension, as they're actually the same anyway (albeit with slightly different damper rate). He had to pay for the suspension, but when he return he could get the replacement from Cadillac under warranty. He agreed and asked for a form of agreement, the manager said it's been recorded in their database (which he foolishly believed).
When he returned home he visited local Cadillac to get the proper replacement, however he was told the warranty was void as he used non-Cadillac part. He called Cadillac again, who replied "The use of parts not from Cadillac voids the warranty without exception." He then reminded them of the database records he was told about, and was answered with "We have no such records available". He then asked for the manager, who replied shortly with "We will check this out immediately". Never happened, instead Cadillac sent him this letter basically saying:
"The warranty for rear right suspension item for your vehicle is no longer honored by Cadillac nor GM. This due to the use of improper replacement parts that was not from Cadillac. However, looking at your history and loyalty to GM in the past, we have decided to re-activate your full warranty once the vehicle receive full service at any of our certified Cadillac service Center. This reactivation does not include initial service, in which you will be required to pay for all parts and service fees".
GM made the mistake, refused to honor warranty, and then sent this ridiculous letter almost as if the customer's at fault. What kind of joke is that? He didn't file a lawsuit as he thought it's a waste of time and money. However he swore it'd be his 13th and last GM car for the rest of his life (oh, the irony...).
GM just lost another customer. A loyal one, unless you think buying 13 GM cars isn't loyal enough. So much for "premium service" isn't it? LOL...
Naturally, he signed the "GM customer no more" petition. He even pressed the pen so hard he actually signed THROUGH the paper instead of on it.
#3376 of 8060
Re: model plan [210delray] by anythngbutgm
Jan 13, 2009 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 13, 2009 6:34 am)

Sure, but I'd still like to think my money going to this Charity Case is being used in my best interest (as a consumer). And right now, as a consumer with vested interest I'd like to see GM dump the dead weight. Not just talk about it. AlI see here is talking and reviewing with little action.
 
For example, Hummer has been up for sale since the summertime. And GM can't seem to sell this joke to anyone. Well boo f'n hoo, you know what? If it were me and I couldn't sell something, then I lower the price. And lower it some more until some sorry sap out there gets it for a song. Cut your losses and move on.
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Re: Batteries built in the USA [210delray] by gagrice
Jan 13, 2009 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 13, 2009 6:29 am)

There you go again with your exaggerations Gary. Of course the Prius is NOT a Porsche 911
 
I guess I should have stipulated Toyota. They do not have anything I would consider fun to drive. My comment was a response to the theme of the Japanese Auto show. It is for those that are eco weenies. That leaves out a lot of car enthusiasts that LIKE to drive a performance vehicle. Not everyone just wants a car to get from point A to B. That to me is not appealing in any way shape or form.
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Re: Sales up for January? [62vetteefp] by m4d_cow
Jan 13, 2009 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 13, 2009 6:07 am)

Uh, the keyword here is FORD. Ford's sales will hold at least imo. They've improved in many areas, and the 2010 Fusion is only steps away from hitting showrooms. Plus, they didn't take the bailout, a somewhat bold move which resonates dearly with American public, particularly those agitated with their tax money going to D2 and WS pockets.
 
Plus, 12 days worth of sales don't necessarily reflect anything.
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Re: GM could need more money [tlong] by dtownfb
Jan 13, 2009 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 12, 2009 9:29 am)

From what was clarified by 62vette (i think), the $18 billion is the $13 billion they are currently receiving and the $5B that GMAC received.
 
don't be surprised if they need more money.....
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Re: List of crappy? [210delray] by 62vetteefp
Jan 13, 2009 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 13, 2009 6:36 am)

Yes they would do the warranty work. Might have an ignition model on hand if it is shared with Chev models. Not sure on the loaner. I think it is up to individual dealers.
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Re: List of crappy? [210delray] by imidazol97
Jan 13, 2009 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 13, 2009 6:36 am)

2005 Ion
Ignition Control Module is a shared part. Looks cost efficient to me. I would expect a Chevy dealer to have them on hand.
 
CHEVROLET CAVALIER (2002 - 2005)
CHEVROLET CLASSIC (2004 - 2005)
CHEVROLET COBALT 2005
CHEVROLET COBALT LS 2006
CHEVROLET COBALT LT 2006
CHEVROLET COBALT LTZ 2006
CHEVROLET HHR LS 2006
CHEVROLET HHR LT 2006
CHEVROLET MALIBU (2004 - 2005)
CHEVROLET MALIBU LS 2006
CHEVROLET MALIBU LT 2006
OLDSMOBILE ALERO (2002 - 2004)
PONTIAC GRAND AM (2002 - 2004)
PONTIAC GRAND AM SE 2005
PONTIAC PURSUIT (2005 - 2006)
PONTIAC SUNFIRE (2002 - 2005)
SATURN ION (2003 - 2004)
SATURN ION-1 2005
SATURN ION-2 (2005 - 2006)
SATURN ION-3 (2005 - 2006)
SATURN L SERIES (2002 - 2004)
SATURN LS 2000
SATURN LS SERIES 2001
SATURN LS1 2000
SATURN LW SERIES (2001 - 2003)
SATURN LW1 2000
SATURN VUE (2002 - 2007)
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Re: [m4d_cow] by 62vetteefp
Jan 13, 2009 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 13, 2009 6:51 am)

I gotta tell you this is totally bogus. All GM work/parts are warrantied at any GM dealer.
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Re: model plan [210delray] by 62vetteefp
Jan 13, 2009 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 13, 2009 6:17 am)

I agree with earlier posters that cutting 8 models out of 48 over 3 years is simply not going far enough. GM needs to cut more overlapping models and quickly!
 
One issue are the all new models that will be coming out.
 
But back to the original comment. GM looks to be keeping to the restructuring plan they submitted.
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Re: Sales up for January? [62vetteefp] by kernick
Jan 13, 2009 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 13, 2009 6:07 am)

Czubay estimated that the industry is on track to sell 20,000 to 30,000 more vehicles this month than in December.
 
Probably due to all this Global Warming. In the last day or so I've seen reports on a few 50 vehicle accidents due to the rotten winter winter; never mind all the 1's and 2's. And I believe there have been some flooding in the NW. So I can see an uptick due to all the extra vehicles that have been destroyed, if nothing else.
 
The economy right now is headed down towards a depression, if nothing major changes. The car companies had better prepare for much worse. If I were GM I'd sell or shutdown permanently 1/3 of their production next week, go bankrupt, and eliminate the union and bring in replacement workers.

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