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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 13, 2009 5:54 am) So that would be, um... 5 wouldn't it? 1,2,3,4 The reason for the confusion is Lutz is counting the Solstice twice, for the convertible and the coupe. So you get G8, G5, Vibe, and 2 Solstices. I agree with earlier posters that cutting 8 models out of 48 over 3 years is simply not going far enough. GM needs to cut more overlapping models and quickly! |
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 13, 2009 6:17 am) As part of the survival strategy submitted to Congress last month, GM said it intends to focus U.S. product and marketing resources on Buick, Chevrolet, Cadillac and GMC.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 13, 2009 6:06 am) There you go again with your exaggerations Gary. Of course the Prius is NOT a Porsche 911, but it's not all that much different from your average small sedan. Actually, it's better appointed than most and getting 50 mpg is a big bonus. I used one as a rental on a recent business trip to Chicago, drove it 110 miles, and the in-car computer bar chart showed plus or minus 50 mpg for each 5-mile segment of the trip. This was in mostly below freezing temps. I only had to add 2.5 gallons before returning it and I literally "stuffed" the tank to make sure it showed "full" on return. I have no idea if it started out with a truly full tank in the beginning, because it uses an 8-segment bar gauge, and all 8 bars were lit. One other reason for picking the Prius is that its controls (cruise, headlamp and wiper switches, etc.) are identical to those used on the Toyota products I own. Nothing is more frustrating than starting out in a rental car with inscrutable controls. The upshot is I paid a little more upfront for the Prius, but got my money back in gas savings.
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jan 13, 2009 6:27 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 13, 2009 3:42 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 13, 2009 5:54 am) Interesting, however it doesn't change the fact that maintaining 40 models when 25 is more than enough to cover the market demands. Kill all slow selling models and you get about 20 left. Think what you want but to me this is a fine example of wasting money. And then... more bailout, and we all wonder why GM keep asking for more... 
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Any GM dealer will cover any GM work Sure they will, but will they honor the differences in contract and warranty? Another question, even if the dealer will cover it, will GM cover it? Not from what I see. Check this out: My neighbor got his 07 Escalade broke down in the middle of nowhere in Idaho, but managed to drive it a bit to the nearest town. Alas, the town had no Cadillac service center, so he stopped at local GMC dealer for assistance. The mechanic told him the rear suspension broke down, and sparepart was avaliable there, but he wouldn't replace it in fear that the Slade might lose it's warranty. My neighbor then called Cadillac for assistance, which rep simply said they couldn't dispatch any roadside assistant because it was "too far from nearest service center". The rep then "talked to his manager", who took over and told him it's ok to temporarily replace it with the GMC Denali suspension, as they're actually the same anyway (albeit with slightly different damper rate). He had to pay for the suspension, but when he return he could get the replacement from Cadillac under warranty. He agreed and asked for a form of agreement, the manager said it's been recorded in their database (which he foolishly believed). When he returned home he visited local Cadillac to get the proper replacement, however he was told the warranty was void as he used non-Cadillac part. He called Cadillac again, who replied "The use of parts not from Cadillac voids the warranty without exception." He then reminded them of the database records he was told about, and was answered with "We have no such records available". He then asked for the manager, who replied shortly with "We will check this out immediately". Never happened, instead Cadillac sent him this letter basically saying: "The warranty for rear right suspension item for your vehicle is no longer honored by Cadillac nor GM. This due to the use of improper replacement parts that was not from Cadillac. However, looking at your history and loyalty to GM in the past, we have decided to re-activate your full warranty once the vehicle receive full service at any of our certified Cadillac service Center. This reactivation does not include initial service, in which you will be required to pay for all parts and service fees". GM made the mistake, refused to honor warranty, and then sent this ridiculous letter almost as if the customer's at fault. What kind of joke is that? He didn't file a lawsuit as he thought it's a waste of time and money. However he swore it'd be his 13th and last GM car for the rest of his life (oh, the irony...). GM just lost another customer. A loyal one, unless you think buying 13 GM cars isn't loyal enough. So much for "premium service" isn't it? LOL... Naturally, he signed the "GM customer no more" petition. He even pressed the pen so hard he actually signed THROUGH the paper instead of on it.
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 13, 2009 6:34 am) For example, Hummer has been up for sale since the summertime. And GM can't seem to sell this joke to anyone. Well boo f'n hoo, you know what? If it were me and I couldn't sell something, then I lower the price. And lower it some more until some sorry sap out there gets it for a song. Cut your losses and move on. |
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 13, 2009 6:29 am) I guess I should have stipulated Toyota. They do not have anything I would consider fun to drive. My comment was a response to the theme of the Japanese Auto show. It is for those that are eco weenies. That leaves out a lot of car enthusiasts that LIKE to drive a performance vehicle. Not everyone just wants a car to get from point A to B. That to me is not appealing in any way shape or form. |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 13, 2009 6:07 am) Plus, 12 days worth of sales don't necessarily reflect anything. |
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