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Sales up for January? by 62vetteefp
Jan 13, 2009 (6:07 am)
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Ford Motor Co. executives say U.S. industry sales during the first 10 days of January rose from December levels, a sign that the market's decline may be abating.
 
"The first couple of weeks have started off stronger than we expected," Jim Farley, Ford group vice president of marketing and communications, said here today at the auto show. "It's been across the board, across the industry."
 
The increase spans a range of vehicle segments, said Ken Czubay, Ford's vice president of U.S. sales and marketing, citing internal sales data and conversations with competitors. Czubay estimated that the industry is on track to sell 20,000 to 30,000 more vehicles this month than in December.
 
January sales topping December's would be more significant than the raw numbers suggest because December is typically a stronger month.
 
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Re: Do the obvious! [gagrice] by lemko
Jan 13, 2009 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 12, 2009 6:18 pm)

I much rather have the old Insight which was a neat little "bullet car" compared to Honda's psuedo-Prius.
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Re: Do the obvious! [lemko] by 62vetteefp
Jan 13, 2009 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 13, 2009 6:07 am)

It was just a two seater. That alone killed the volume capability.
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Re: auto shows [62vetteefp] by lemko
Jan 13, 2009 (6:11 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 13, 2009 4:44 am)

Holy smoke! That's bad. I hope the Philly show is still good. I believe the regional dealers host this show, but we are down quite a few dealers since last year.
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Re: model plan [62vetteefp] by 210delray
Jan 13, 2009 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 13, 2009 5:54 am)

Pontiac will be down to only 4 models: G8, G5, Solstice and Vibe.
   
So that would be, um... 5 wouldn't it? 1,2,3,4

 
The reason for the confusion is Lutz is counting the Solstice twice, for the convertible and the coupe. So you get G8, G5, Vibe, and 2 Solstices.
 
I agree with earlier posters that cutting 8 models out of 48 over 3 years is simply not going far enough. GM needs to cut more overlapping models and quickly!
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Re: model plan [210delray] by anythngbutgm
Jan 13, 2009 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 13, 2009 6:17 am)

No, actualy I'm commenting on this
 
As part of the survival strategy submitted to Congress last month, GM said it intends to focus U.S. product and marketing resources on Buick, Chevrolet, Cadillac and GMC.
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Re: Batteries built in the USA [gagrice] by 210delray
Jan 13, 2009 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 13, 2009 6:06 am)

I would say that anyone that thinks driving a Prius is fun, runs shy of a full load. It is economical transportation at best.
 
There you go again with your exaggerations Gary. Of course the Prius is NOT a Porsche 911, but it's not all that much different from your average small sedan. Actually, it's better appointed than most and getting 50 mpg is a big bonus.
 
I used one as a rental on a recent business trip to Chicago, drove it 110 miles, and the in-car computer bar chart showed plus or minus 50 mpg for each 5-mile segment of the trip. This was in mostly below freezing temps. I only had to add 2.5 gallons before returning it and I literally "stuffed" the tank to make sure it showed "full" on return. I have no idea if it started out with a truly full tank in the beginning, because it uses an 8-segment bar gauge, and all 8 bars were lit.
 
One other reason for picking the Prius is that its controls (cruise, headlamp and wiper switches, etc.) are identical to those used on the Toyota products I own. Nothing is more frustrating than starting out in a rental car with inscrutable controls.
 
The upshot is I paid a little more upfront for the Prius, but got my money back in gas savings.
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Re: model plan [anythngbutgm] by 210delray
Jan 13, 2009 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jan 13, 2009 6:27 am)

I suppose the big problem though is GM has no "clean" way of getting rid of Hummer, Saab, Pontiac, and Saturn. No one wants to buy these brands and the affected dealers are going to raise hell if GM tries to terminate these makes.
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Re: List of crappy? [62vetteefp] by 210delray
Jan 13, 2009 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 13, 2009 3:42 am)

Even for warranty work? Would the local Chevy dealer provide a loaner at no cost? Would the Chevy dealer have the Saturn ignition modules on hand?
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Re: model plan [62vetteefp] by m4d_cow
Jan 13, 2009 (6:38 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 13, 2009 5:54 am)

As posted in the restructuring plan they look, even though it has been only about 3 days into it, to be following it to the letter as far as the models / marques go. They are trying to do something with Hummer/Saab/Saturn and decrease the number of models at Pontiac and doing more fuel efficient/alternative models.
 
Interesting, however it doesn't change the fact that maintaining 40 models when 25 is more than enough to cover the market demands. Kill all slow selling models and you get about 20 left.
Think what you want but to me this is a fine example of wasting money. And then... more bailout, and we all wonder why GM keep asking for more...

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