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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 12, 2009 2:18 pm) |
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As I read through the messages, all of you show resentment of the current GM situation. GM has been slow to design vehicles that meet the criteria for the future economic situation-one in which oil reserves are scarce, and gasoline prices are extremely high. Many of the GM vehicles are designed with American criteria such as large cabin room, comfort, and gas guzzling vehicles. Do the obvious! Convert to a Honda vehicle. Honda is the best prepared manufacturer for the current economic situation. Honda's line of vehicles are smaller,more reliable, gas sipping vehicles with great resale value. In a few months, the Honda Insight will be introduced. It is the Honda hybrid ( electric motor and gas motor) that is the direction the car manufacturers should be driving towards. |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 12, 2009 11:52 am) I think there is a lot of double talk to get Congress to loosen up the purse strings on the $25 billion allocated for new technology. I would be most surprised if the actual lithium Cells are manufactured in the USA. I figured GM would pull a scam on A123 from the get go. And what other cars are slated to use A123 batteries? The Prius plug-in kit using A123 batteries has had a setback with one of the modified 2008 Prius burning up. Also my understanding is most of the Lithium comes from Bolivia. After the Enron debacle their new leader is not pro USA. He is tied in tight with Chavez.
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Picked up an '08 Torrent today taking advantage of GM rebate, owner loyalty cash and GM Card top-off your earnings to $3000 incentive. Based on time of initiation of the GM Card incentive program my GM dollars totaled ~$1900 dollars. So I had an additional ~$1100 from GM Card. Since that initiation date ~$125 of my GM dollars expired. Net according to the people at gm card is now ~$2875, not $3000. Both the dealer & I felt that my actual balance of GM Card dollars should not effect the $3000 incentive amount since the program is marketed to topping off your total GM card dollars to $3000. Price from the dealership was very fair and past service from this dealership has been excellent. So I absorbed the unexpected $125. Just not happy with GM Card. Bottom line make sure your GM Card dollar balance is equal or greater to the amount printed on the mailing they sent you on the date the dealership activates the code found on the mailer. |
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Replying to: chromedome (Jan 12, 2009 6:10 pm) The Honda Insight is a joke. It does not have as high of an EPA rating as the much bigger Civic Hybrid. Honda needs to go back to the drawing board. All they did was try to match the oddball design of the Prius in a cheap hybrid.
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 12, 2009 7:47 am) BTW, my past '97 Camry and current '04 and '05 Camrys have been essentially trouble-free. I service them myself, so they rarely see the local Toyota dealer, which has a less than stellar reputation (not just for Toyota but for all the brands it sells, import AND domestic). Our town is too small to have more than one dealer per make. Oh, and about GM's quality problems being a thing of the past? A colleague at work with an '05 Saturn ION is ready to give up on it after repeated ignition module failures (the car won't start or the key can't be removed from the ignition switch). He moved here from the Detroit area, and there's no Saturn dealer in town. He has to drive about 30 miles to the next town for the repair work, most of which is still covered under the warranty. Still a pain because he's forced to take time off from work. It seems GM still treats its smaller cars with disdain, whereas the big cars favored by lemko and imidazol are much better.
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jan 12, 2009 4:42 pm) |
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For 2008 GM has 48 nameplates and will reduce to 40 by 1012 (chart 5 And you think that's enough? It should be more like 20-25 at most. From what I know, Trailblazer bros, Colorado bros, and H3 are all built on the same platform. |
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 12, 2009 7:11 pm) Any GM dealer will cover any GM work.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 12, 2009 6:15 pm) Not sure how A123 was a scam. GM up to a short time ago was using both battery sources in their development. LG was chosen because they had the better battery technology (per testing) at least in today's forms. Perhaps we do not see it here because this is a GM forum every large OEM is showing their electric cars from Chrylser to Nissan and any of those could use the batteries. |
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