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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 12, 2009 8:00 am) No problem. In my experiences over many years with Caddy, Pontiac, Olds Chevy and now GMC, there are far better choices out there. Not all of GM. Never had a Saturn and Buick of late has improved...but still boring so far. Just one opinion. Don't read this if you can't bear admitting GM has failed in my view. As m4d_cow has eloquently stated, the brand has been failing for years and the market share proves it...unless we are on some parallel world where deception is revered over honesty. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 12, 2009 8:15 am) That was designed in for a purpose...so the loyal returned to buy another vehicle....unfortunately for the D3, the other brands are winning the game. Those darned disloyal customers! Why, I oughta....   Regards, OW |
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Came across this. May not be all the plants though. Some are being closed permanantly soon. And not all produce product for US. U.S.: * Ft. Wayne (Ind.) - Chevy Silverado, GMC Sierra Light Duty Regular and Extended Cab * Flint Assembly (Mich.) - Chevy Silverado, GMC Sierra Heavy Duty Regular and Crew Cab & Medium Duty * Wentzville (Mo.) - Chevy Express, GMC Savanna * Lansing Delta Township (Mich.) - Buick Enclave, GMC Acadia, Saturn Outlook * Pontiac Assembly (Mich.) - Chevy Silverado, GMC Sierra Heavy Duty Extended Cab * Spring Hill (Tenn.) - Chevy Traverse * Fairfax Assembly (Kan.) - Chevrolet Malibu/Hybrid, Saturn Aura/Hybrid * Arlington Assembly (Texas) - Full Size SUVs: Chevy Suburban, Tahoe & Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon, Yukon XL & Yukon Hybrid, Cadillac Escalade/Escalade ESV & Escalade Hybrid * Lansing Grand River (Mich.) - Cadillac STS & CTS * Orion (Mich.) - Chevy Malibu, Pontiac G6 * Detroit-Hamtramck (Mich.) - Buick Lucerne, Cadillac DTS * Shreveport (La.) - Chevy Colorado, GMC Canyon, Hummer H3 & H3T * Bowling Green (Ky.) - Chevy Corvette, Cadillac XLR * Wilmington (Del.) - Pontiac Solstice, Saturn Sky, Opel GT Canada: * Oshawa Consolidated - Chevy Impala * Oshawa Truck - Chevy Silverado, GMC Sierra Light Duty Extended and Crew Cab * CAMI - Chevy Equinox, Pontiac Torrent Mexico: * Silao - Chevy Silverado, GMC Sierra Light Duty Crew Cab, Chevy Avalanche, Cadillac Escalade EXT * Ramos 2 - Chevy HHR, Saturn VUE, Chevy Captiva * San Luis Potosi - Chevy Aveo, Pontiac G3
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 12, 2009 1:22 pm) In one week they also went from post #3139, "General Motors Corp. said it has enough government loans to cover its worst-case forecast for U.S. auto sales and won’t need more if the economy holds up" (1/7/09) to "worst-case scenario would require more than the $13.4 billion already allocated by the Treasury Department." (1/12/09) It's hard to trust much of anything we hear from GM. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 12, 2009 9:59 am) IIRC, the H3 is based on the Trailblazer, which can fit the 5.3 V-8. The new Duramax 4.5 was designed to fit in the space of the 5.3, so it would work. When, who knows.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 12, 2009 3:18 pm) |
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As I read through the messages, all of you show resentment of the current GM situation. GM has been slow to design vehicles that meet the criteria for the future economic situation-one in which oil reserves are scarce, and gasoline prices are extremely high. Many of the GM vehicles are designed with American criteria such as large cabin room, comfort, and gas guzzling vehicles. Do the obvious! Convert to a Honda vehicle. Honda is the best prepared manufacturer for the current economic situation. Honda's line of vehicles are smaller,more reliable, gas sipping vehicles with great resale value. In a few months, the Honda Insight will be introduced. It is the Honda hybrid ( electric motor and gas motor) that is the direction the car manufacturers should be driving towards. |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 12, 2009 12:52 pm) I think there is a lot of double talk to get Congress to loosen up the purse strings on the $25 billion allocated for new technology. I would be most surprised if the actual lithium Cells are manufactured in the USA. I figured GM would pull a scam on A123 from the get go. And what other cars are slated to use A123 batteries? The Prius plug-in kit using A123 batteries has had a setback with one of the modified 2008 Prius burning up. Also my understanding is most of the Lithium comes from Bolivia. After the Enron debacle their new leader is not pro USA. He is tied in tight with Chavez.
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Picked up an '08 Torrent today taking advantage of GM rebate, owner loyalty cash and GM Card top-off your earnings to $3000 incentive. Based on time of initiation of the GM Card incentive program my GM dollars totaled ~$1900 dollars. So I had an additional ~$1100 from GM Card. Since that initiation date ~$125 of my GM dollars expired. Net according to the people at gm card is now ~$2875, not $3000. Both the dealer & I felt that my actual balance of GM Card dollars should not effect the $3000 incentive amount since the program is marketed to topping off your total GM card dollars to $3000. Price from the dealership was very fair and past service from this dealership has been excellent. So I absorbed the unexpected $125. Just not happy with GM Card. Bottom line make sure your GM Card dollar balance is equal or greater to the amount printed on the mailing they sent you on the date the dealership activates the code found on the mailer. |
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Replying to: chromedome (Jan 12, 2009 7:10 pm) The Honda Insight is a joke. It does not have as high of an EPA rating as the much bigger Civic Hybrid. Honda needs to go back to the drawing board. All they did was try to match the oddball design of the Prius in a cheap hybrid.
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