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Re: model plan [nippononly] by 62vetteefp
Jan 12, 2009 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 12, 2009 12:22 pm)

What they really said-the plan as proposed
 
6.1 Marketing and Retail Operations—Today, General Motors competes in the United States with 8 brands. Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick, and GMC represent the company‘s core brands, accounting for 83% of current sales. The company will focus substantially all of its product development and marketing resources in support of these brands. This will result in improvements in awareness, sales, and customer satisfaction for these 4 core brands. Significant efforts have been expended to combine the Buick, Pontiac and GMC (BPG) brands into a single dealer distribution network, with approximately 80% of these brands‘ combined sales sold through BPG-branded stores. This channel will be fully competitive in terms of total entries offered, with Pontiac serving as a specialty/niche brand with reduced product offerings solely intended to complement Buick and GMC models and reinforce the channel as a whole. Hummer has recently been put under strategic review, which includes the possible sale of the brand. GM will also immediately undertake and expedite a strategic review of the Saab brand globally. Finally, Saturn, which has performed below expectations, has a unique franchise agreement and operating structure. As part of the Plan, the company will accelerate discussions with Saturn retailers and explore alternatives for the Saturn brand.
 
As indicated in Table 5, the Plan focuses the company‘s resources in the U.S. around a smaller, more profitable set of nameplates (40 by 2012) with further consolidations in GM‘s dealer network planned to get to a more profitable and stronger dealer network.

 
For 2008 GM has 48 nameplates and will reduce to 40 by 1012 (chart 5).
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Re: model plan [62vetteefp] by 62vetteefp
Jan 12, 2009 (1:55 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 12, 2009 1:27 pm)

What they really said-the plan as proposed
 
6.1 Marketing and Retail Operations—Today, General Motors competes in the United States with 8 brands. Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick, and GMC represent the company‘s core brands, accounting for 83% of current sales. The company will focus substantially all of its product development and marketing resources in support of these brands. This will result in improvements in awareness, sales, and customer satisfaction for these 4 core brands. Significant efforts have been expended to combine the Buick, Pontiac and GMC (BPG) brands into a single dealer distribution network, with approximately 80% of these brands‘ combined sales sold through BPG-branded stores. This channel will be fully competitive in terms of total entries offered, with Pontiac serving as a specialty/niche brand with reduced product offerings solely intended to complement Buick and GMC models and reinforce the channel as a whole. Hummer has recently been put under strategic review, which includes the possible sale of the brand. GM will also immediately undertake and expedite a strategic review of the Saab brand globally. Finally, Saturn, which has performed below expectations, has a unique franchise agreement and operating structure. As part of the Plan, the company will accelerate discussions with Saturn retailers and explore alternatives for the Saturn brand.
 
As indicated in Table 5, the Plan focuses the company‘s resources in the U.S. around a smaller, more profitable set of nameplates (40 by 2012) with further consolidations in GM‘s dealer network planned to get to a more profitable and stronger dealer network.

 
For 2008 GM has 48 nameplates and will reduce to 40 by 1012 (chart 5).
 
Pontiac will be down to only 4 models: G8, G5, Solstice and Vibe. As they said "to complement Buick and GMC". Buick/GMC have no G8 RWD vehicles, no small cars and no sports car. For the Buick/Pontiac/GMC dealership channel to be viable they need some small cars. I will agree that the G5/Vibe would not be my choice and hopefully something else will take it's place that is more Pontiac in the near future.
 
I see no smoke and mirrors here.
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Re: To show you the real picture [imidazol97] by circlew
Jan 12, 2009 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 12, 2009 7:00 am)

If you had a particular model that failed you, whether it is because of poor build or your failure to properly service the car,, I feel sorry for your problems, but don't ascribe your experience to all GMs. People owning HoToys started having more problems in 03 as their quality regressed to the mean.
 
No problem. In my experiences over many years with Caddy, Pontiac, Olds Chevy and now GMC, there are far better choices out there. Not all of GM. Never had a Saturn and Buick of late has improved...but still boring so far.
 
Just one opinion. Don't read this if you can't bear admitting GM has failed in my view. As m4d_cow has eloquently stated, the brand has been failing for years and the market share proves it...unless we are on some parallel world where deception is revered over honesty.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: To show you the real picture [m4d_cow] by circlew
Jan 12, 2009 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 12, 2009 7:15 am)

Domestics don't do that, and if they do, they usually wait for a serious problem to come up before fixing it.
 
That was designed in for a purpose...so the loyal returned to buy another vehicle....unfortunately for the D3, the other brands are winning the game. Those darned disloyal customers! Why, I oughta....
 

 
Regards,
OW
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2009 GM NA plants by 62vetteefp
Jan 12, 2009 (2:18 pm)
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Came across this. May not be all the plants though. Some are being closed permanantly soon. And not all produce product for US.
 
U.S.:
 
    * Ft. Wayne (Ind.) - Chevy Silverado, GMC Sierra Light Duty Regular and Extended Cab
    * Flint Assembly (Mich.) - Chevy Silverado, GMC Sierra Heavy Duty Regular and Crew Cab & Medium Duty
    * Wentzville (Mo.) - Chevy Express, GMC Savanna
    * Lansing Delta Township (Mich.) - Buick Enclave, GMC Acadia, Saturn Outlook
    * Pontiac Assembly (Mich.) - Chevy Silverado, GMC Sierra Heavy Duty Extended Cab
    * Spring Hill (Tenn.) - Chevy Traverse
    * Fairfax Assembly (Kan.) - Chevrolet Malibu/Hybrid, Saturn Aura/Hybrid
    * Arlington Assembly (Texas) - Full Size SUVs: Chevy Suburban, Tahoe & Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon, Yukon XL & Yukon Hybrid, Cadillac Escalade/Escalade ESV & Escalade Hybrid
    * Lansing Grand River (Mich.) - Cadillac STS & CTS
    * Orion (Mich.) - Chevy Malibu, Pontiac G6
    * Detroit-Hamtramck (Mich.) - Buick Lucerne, Cadillac DTS
    * Shreveport (La.) - Chevy Colorado, GMC Canyon, Hummer H3 & H3T
    * Bowling Green (Ky.) - Chevy Corvette, Cadillac XLR
    * Wilmington (Del.) - Pontiac Solstice, Saturn Sky, Opel GT
 
Canada:
 
    * Oshawa Consolidated - Chevy Impala
    * Oshawa Truck - Chevy Silverado, GMC Sierra Light Duty Extended and Crew Cab
    * CAMI - Chevy Equinox, Pontiac Torrent
 
Mexico:
 
    * Silao - Chevy Silverado, GMC Sierra Light Duty Crew Cab, Chevy Avalanche, Cadillac Escalade EXT
    * Ramos 2 - Chevy HHR, Saturn VUE, Chevy Captiva
    * San Luis Potosi - Chevy Aveo, Pontiac G3
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Re: model plan [nippononly] by tlong
Jan 12, 2009 (2:31 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 12, 2009 12:22 pm)

Which ones are the lies and which are the truth? When GM went up to Washington, they said they would become a 4-brand organization, with Pontiac a "niche brand".
 
In one week they also went from
 
post #3139, "General Motors Corp. said it has enough government loans to cover its worst-case forecast for U.S. auto sales and won’t need more if the economy holds up" (1/7/09)
 
to
 
"worst-case scenario would require more than the $13.4 billion already allocated by the Treasury Department." (1/12/09)
 
It's hard to trust much of anything we hear from GM.
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Re: List of crappy? [gagrice] by cooterbfd
Jan 12, 2009 (4:42 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 12, 2009 8:59 am)

".......Did someone say they are going to offer a Hummer 3 with diesel?"
 
IIRC, the H3 is based on the Trailblazer, which can fit the 5.3 V-8. The new Duramax 4.5 was designed to fit in the space of the 5.3, so it would work. When, who knows.
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Re: 2009 GM NA plants [62vetteefp] by bpizzuti
Jan 12, 2009 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 12, 2009 2:18 pm)

Two Malibu plants, one of which makes the hybrid. Interesting...won't be sad to see the Aveo/G3 plant go...won't be sad to see those models go, either. The rest of them just needed to be closed...GM's got way too much manufacturing capacity for their current market share, or the current recession.
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Do the obvious! by chromedome
Jan 12, 2009 (6:10 pm)
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As I read through the messages, all of you show resentment of the current GM situation. GM has been slow to design vehicles that meet the criteria for the future economic situation-one in which oil reserves are scarce, and gasoline prices are extremely high. Many of the GM vehicles are designed with American criteria such as large cabin room, comfort, and gas guzzling vehicles.
 
Do the obvious! Convert to a Honda vehicle. Honda is the best prepared manufacturer for the current economic situation. Honda's line of vehicles are smaller,more reliable, gas sipping vehicles with great resale value.
 
In a few months, the Honda Insight will be introduced. It is the Honda hybrid ( electric motor and gas motor) that is the direction the car manufacturers should be driving towards.
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Re: GM battery announcement [62vetteefp] by gagrice
Jan 12, 2009 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 12, 2009 11:52 am)

But in reading other statements it looks like there will be an effort to get Li-ion cell manufacturing here in the states
 
I think there is a lot of double talk to get Congress to loosen up the purse strings on the $25 billion allocated for new technology. I would be most surprised if the actual lithium Cells are manufactured in the USA. I figured GM would pull a scam on A123 from the get go. And what other cars are slated to use A123 batteries? The Prius plug-in kit using A123 batteries has had a setback with one of the modified 2008 Prius burning up. Also my understanding is most of the Lithium comes from Bolivia. After the Enron debacle their new leader is not pro USA. He is tied in tight with Chavez.

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