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Re: List of crappy? [imidazol97] by m4d_cow
Jan 11, 2009 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 11, 2009 12:01 pm)

And Avalon is just another Camry. It was based on the previous Camry chassis. There are 3 Camrys; don't need that many.
 
Indeed.
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Re: List of crappy? [carnaught] by 62vetteefp
Jan 11, 2009 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Jan 11, 2009 11:30 am)

My god, it never ends.
 
Quality is not good enough: Buick is now world class at the top with Lexus for both short and long term.
Dealership is not good: Buick is at the top of dealership satisfaction
Interior is not good enough: Looks pretty darn good now with top notch materials
Exterior is plain: Looks pretty stylish now
Ride and handling sucks: Now it has high tech real time adjustable dampers(will have to wait for ride to see how it works.
It does not have high tech: Now it does
It is loud: Now quietest of all midsize/entry level marques
Does not have high tech modern headlamps:now it does and they even swivel
Does not have high tech taillights: Now it has LED taillights
AWD is not available: now it is
powertrain out of date: aluminum overhead cam V6 with DI
MPG sucks: Very competitive now
It's not made in the US: now it is
The badge is out of date.
 
http://jalopnik.com/5125035/2010-buick-lacrosse-blue-hair-no-more
 
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Re: 2008 Sales (Final Figures) [tlong] by dave8697
Jan 11, 2009 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 11, 2009 11:23 am)

If I look at the owners experiences with the GM's, your comments seem out of sync.
 
You forgot one.
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Re: List of crappy? [62vetteefp] by circlew
Jan 11, 2009 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 11, 2009 12:23 pm)

 
It ends when the product pleases enough to be the best. Up until the now, it hasn't.
 
Relax.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: List of crappy? [62vetteefp] by carnaught
Jan 11, 2009 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 11, 2009 12:23 pm)

Yup, and there are many reasons why Buick and GM are in trouble.
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Re: List of crappy? [62vetteefp] by bpizzuti
Jan 11, 2009 (1:38 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 11, 2009 12:23 pm)

Part of that is perception...GM's burned so many people they're going to have to do all that and more to get people to consider them again.
 
I happen to agree that the badge is way out of date. Today's Buick is very different, and the badge should reflect that. That's one of the mistakes I think they made with Caddy too, actually.
 
Oh and MPG can't just be competitive. If GM wants to survive, it needs to be CLASS-LEADING, not merely competitive. And yes, they have to be THAT much better to earn business back from some.
 
The complaints are indicating what customers want to see from Buick. GM needs to answer and provide the customers with the product they want rather than whining that people are asking too much of them.
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Re: List of crappy? [bpizzuti] by circlew
Jan 11, 2009 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 11, 2009 1:38 pm)

Yes, you can complain about negative perceptions all you want. When the PRODUCTS change those perceptions, you succeed. Until then, it's all excuses.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: List of crappy? [62vetteefp] by gagrice
Jan 11, 2009 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 11, 2009 12:23 pm)

I must be totally out of sync with everyone else. I thought the last few years of the Buick were nice looking. The new one looks like a Camry from the rear. I hate the looks of the Camry. I guess if Buick sells that will be the test. I really don't like the newer Cadillacs. The only Caddies I see here in San Diego are the real tuna boat models. All have Marine stickers and the guys look like Korean war vets. I rarely see a new model Cadillac sedan. Escalades are everywhere. Two on my street alone. I would guess that Escalade keeps the brand going.
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Volt battery production location by 62vetteefp
Jan 11, 2009 (2:08 pm)
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GENERAL MOTORS will announce Monday that it will make lithium-ion battery packs to power the 2011 Chevrolet Volt and other extended-range electric vehicles at a new facility in Michigan. With the announcement, to be made during press preview days for the North American International Auto Show by Rick Wagoner, the company’s chairman and chief executive, G.M. becomes the first major automaker with a commitment to producing the advanced battery packs in the United States.
 
GM is also is expected to announce the opening of a new advanced-battery test facility at its global electric-vehicle engineering center in Warren, Mich.
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Detroit auto show press show by 62vetteefp
Jan 11, 2009 (2:10 pm)
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General Motors today added three fuel-efficient vehicles to its three previously announced debuts.
 
GM's surprises were:
• The Chevrolet Spark minicar, going on sale in the United States by 2011.
• The Chevrolet Orlando small crossover, on sale by 2011.
• A Cadillac concept, expected to be called the Converj, powered by Chevrolet Volt plug-in technology.
 
The three vehicles came in addition to three expected debuts: the 2010 Buick LaCrosse sedan, on sale this summer; the 2010 Cadillac SRX crossover, on sale in the second quarter; and the 2010 Chevrolet Equinox crossover, on sale in mid-2009.
 
The Spark is based on the Beat concept minicar shown at the 2007 New York auto show. In November, GM had said it would not sell the Beat in the United States. But as Automotive News reported in July, GM changed its mind. The minicar will look similar to the Beat, spokesman Scott Fosgard said.
 
GM revealed the Orlando concept vehicle at the Paris auto show last fall. The small crossover is built on the global compact-vehicle platform used for the Chevrolet Cruze. It seats seven.
 
The Cadillac concept, although based on the platform used for the Chevrolet Volt, is dramatically different-looking. It will be sold at a much higher price than the estimated $40,000 sticker on the Volt plug-in hybrid.
 
Fosgard said the three surprise vehicles show that GM plans to stick around: "These are the proof points to the skeptics that say, 'Let them die.' "

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