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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jan 10, 2009 11:17 am) Lucerne's fit-finish pales in comparison with Nissan Maxima and GM's own Pontiac G8. LaCrosse's fit-finish, now that's better. If you insist on comparing with Avalon, Avalon wins in refinement, Lucerne is quieter. Interiorwise, Lucerne has better panel fits, Avalon has better materials. That the Avalon goes bye-bye this year, has nothing to do with which is better. Avalon simply isn't needed as the market for fullsize cars keep shrinking and the current Camry is almost as large already. Lucerne soldiers on, mainly because of customers' loyalty (Buick has loads of loyalists) towards it, remember that the Lucerne is positioned as the replacement fot the ultra-popular (by class standard) LeSabre.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 11, 2009 6:32 am) Seriously, if I had any desire to own another sedan the Buick would get a good test drive. I just don't see myself ever buying another one. |
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 09, 2009 10:20 pm) so 33% unemployment would be your target for our economy if you were in Obama's position? That would leave crappy people out on the street? Apples to oranges. How is that relevant? Crappy people have lower-paying jobs, in general (or they are unemployed). Not at all relevant to an AUTOMOBILE discussion. Some of us want all of us to succeed. If I look at the owners experiences with the GM's, your comments seem out of sync. We have 1.9 million people freshly out of work since September. The ones driving GM's are crappy people in crappy cars? I hope none of them are stinking up your neighborhood.
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 11, 2009 10:08 am) Dave, there's a huge difference between crappy people who're still pulling some effort to become better and crappy people who think they aren't. The latter can drop dead for all I care. Crappy people have lower-paying jobs, in general (or they are unemployed). Not at all relevant to an AUTOMOBILE discussion. Correction, tlong, some crappy people actually get paid higher than others who actually deserve it. can you say UAW?  We have 1.9 million people freshly out of work since September. So? You actually want every person alive to succeed? How noble, I wish it's that easy but it's impossible. You don't work hard, you dont succeed, simply because the world isn't that nice. |
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 11, 2009 10:08 am) You are taking my original post way out of context and drawing ridiculous conclusions. Please re-read the thread.
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 11, 2009 4:51 am) Speaking of which, that Buick badge needs to go. It connotes "it's your father's Buick"," its Uncle Olaf's Buick", whatever, it just doesn't work anymore. I don't even have as much trouble with the port holes; they are good enough for 4 door Maserati's.
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 11, 2009 7:03 am) And Avalon is just another Camry. It was based on the previous Camry chassis. There are 3 Camrys; don't need that many. Buick can keep the current logo. It has nothing to do with the product.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 11, 2009 12:01 pm) Indeed.
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Replying to: carnaught (Jan 11, 2009 11:30 am) Quality is not good enough: Buick is now world class at the top with Lexus for both short and long term. Dealership is not good: Buick is at the top of dealership satisfaction Interior is not good enough: Looks pretty darn good now with top notch materials Exterior is plain: Looks pretty stylish now Ride and handling sucks: Now it has high tech real time adjustable dampers(will have to wait for ride to see how it works. It does not have high tech: Now it does It is loud: Now quietest of all midsize/entry level marques Does not have high tech modern headlamps:now it does and they even swivel Does not have high tech taillights: Now it has LED taillights AWD is not available: now it is powertrain out of date: aluminum overhead cam V6 with DI MPG sucks: Very competitive now It's not made in the US: now it is The badge is out of date.  http://jalopnik.com/5125035/2010-buick-lacrosse-blue-hair-no-more
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 11, 2009 11:23 am) You forgot one. |
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