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by m4d_cow
Jan 10, 2009 (7:59 am)
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"So that Camaro built in Canada does support a couple thousand jobs there but also supports many thousands more here in the states. Same with all the vehicles built in NA."
 
Even if a car is built in Canada it also supports thousands of jobs in the US, yes that's true but what about this one question noone seem to ask so far: instead of supporting thousands in US and thousands in Canada, why not build the whole thing in US to support even more jobs????? Sure financially its the best decision, but is this the kind of company you'd call patriotic, the kind of company you want to support? Yeah right.
If GM wants us to be patriotic and buy US made, GM needs to at the very least be patriotic as well and make it 100% US made, no excuse and propagandas.
For anyone who say: that's impossible, welcome to the real world, bud, where patriotism is meaningless in face of reality.
 
"But we should have no problem if the buyer takes his US given rights and buys cars that were made in the US. "
 
Well, I have the superior right given by US and most importantly god himself, it's called "Freedom of Choice" which allows me to buy whatever I wish.
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Re: Cadillac Volt [tlong] by circlew
Jan 10, 2009 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 09, 2009 3:28 pm)

Exactly...model the 128/135. What are they waiting for? Oh, forgot...got no cash.
 
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OW
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Buick's declining sales in China by m4d_cow
Jan 10, 2009 (8:13 am)
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I have no written source but I did contact a colleague of mine currently working in Shenzhen. The latest news over there state that both claims (Buick down, Gm up) are somewhat true. Buick's sales has been declining since last year. However, Chevrolet and Cadillac's sales are up. That's why GM cancelled it's plan to expand Buick production (there's not even a single news about this here, Buick expanding??? When?) and opened Shenyang plant instead.
 
Cadillac's sales unexpectedly went up, with Escalade (GM sell it there?) and CTS doing good, STS and BLS a disaster. Chrysler 300 meanwhile, remains the most popular entry level luxury car (yes, Cadillac is considered entry level there).
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Re: Better Stay in Line! [dave8697] by circlew
Jan 10, 2009 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 09, 2009 5:50 pm)

We'll see if the cars get better.. So far, the new La Crosse might sell well IF the UAW-based wages allow proper pricing.
 
If not, get on the incentive line early!
 
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OW
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Re: 2008 Sales (Final Figures) [dave8697] by circlew
Jan 10, 2009 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 09, 2009 5:54 pm)

Specifically, form me, I would not buy any of these cars. Call them CRAPPY or UNAPPEALING.
 
There are just too many other better choices.
 
That includes all BOF SUV's GM makes. The CUV's need to prove themselves and not fall apart. We will see.
 
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OW
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Re: Better Stay in Line! [tlong] by circlew
Jan 10, 2009 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 09, 2009 10:05 pm)

Don't you know the UAW is banking on more bailout $$$? Don't blame only management for thinking short term. Obama either recognizes this or he fails at the restructuring of the D3 and the network of failure it created.
 
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OW
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Re: Cadillac Volt [tlong] by circlew
Jan 10, 2009 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 09, 2009 10:29 pm)

Your post is excellent. NONE of the D3 have a small car that appeals to people who want a great premium car that holds it's value because it is a strong brand that delivers precisely what the customer is looking for.
 
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OW
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Re: List of crappy? [m4d_cow] by circlew
Jan 10, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 10, 2009 7:52 am)

Very satisfied...to leave all of those poor excuses on the dealer lots.
 
Nice synopsis.
 
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OW
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Re: List of crappy? [m4d_cow] by cooterbfd
Jan 10, 2009 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 10, 2009 7:52 am)

".......Buick:
Lucerne: Fit-finish, nuff' said"
 
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/USAToday/access/977231411.html?dids=977231411:977231- 411&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Jan+27%2C+2006&author=James+R.+Healey&pub=USA+TODAY- &edition=&startpage=B.3&desc=Lucerne+trumps+those+annoying+Buick+prejudices
 
If you can get ahold of the whole article, (I can't get it all) he goes on to say that the fit and finish is better than the Avalon.
 
Maybe this is why the Avalon is DOA, and the Lucerne soldiers on.
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Re: List of crappy? [cooterbfd] by steve_ HOST
Jan 10, 2009 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jan 10, 2009 11:17 am)

Healey's article seems to all be there at the source - USA Today.

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