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Sure Dave, here's my list: Chevy HHR: horrible materials (compared to even PT Cruiser), terrible handler Cobalt: total crap compared to the likes of Civic and Mazda3 inside out. Aveo: Hopelessly cramped inside compared to Fit or even Yaris (which is tiny already) Impala: have you checked out the interior? 100% rental grade Equinox: Poor quality and refinement Colorado: hasnt been updated since the ice age Trailblazer (and all the clones): need I say more? SSR: what's the point? Uplander: is it dead yet? Pontiac Solstice: trashy engine and tranny, poor performance G3: same as Aveo G6: slow, heavy on fuel, doesn't feel solid G5: Cobalt ripoff = the same crap Vibe: Matrix twin minus the build quality and interior for the same price Aztek: behold, king of ugly and pointless  Saturn Sky: just another Solstice ripoff Aura: totally unrefined compared to Malibu Astra: not bad but waayyy overpriced Hummer H2: horrible interior quality for the price H3: terrible engine Buick: Lucerne: Fit-finish, nuff' said. Cadillac: XLR: horrific fit-finish and quality for the price SRX: interior made of tupperware STS: terrible interior and space for it's size, class and price Escalade: good by regular standard, crap by luxo standard. The only reason it's "perceived as good": the hype, superficial "bling" (thanks to the celebs) Those are the ones I find below par, others are so-so at best. If you ask LaCrosse, I say: just ok, not bad but nothing good either. Escalade you say? Compare it with Audi Q7, Range Rover, Lexus LX or MB GL550, and you'll see why. Satisfied?
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"So that Camaro built in Canada does support a couple thousand jobs there but also supports many thousands more here in the states. Same with all the vehicles built in NA." Even if a car is built in Canada it also supports thousands of jobs in the US, yes that's true but what about this one question noone seem to ask so far: instead of supporting thousands in US and thousands in Canada, why not build the whole thing in US to support even more jobs????? Sure financially its the best decision, but is this the kind of company you'd call patriotic, the kind of company you want to support? Yeah right. If GM wants us to be patriotic and buy US made, GM needs to at the very least be patriotic as well and make it 100% US made, no excuse and propagandas. For anyone who say: that's impossible, welcome to the real world, bud, where patriotism is meaningless in face of reality. "But we should have no problem if the buyer takes his US given rights and buys cars that were made in the US. " Well, I have the superior right given by US and most importantly god himself, it's called "Freedom of Choice" which allows me to buy whatever I wish. |
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 09, 2009 3:28 pm) Regards, OW |
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I have no written source but I did contact a colleague of mine currently working in Shenzhen. The latest news over there state that both claims (Buick down, Gm up) are somewhat true. Buick's sales has been declining since last year. However, Chevrolet and Cadillac's sales are up. That's why GM cancelled it's plan to expand Buick production (there's not even a single news about this here, Buick expanding??? When?) and opened Shenyang plant instead. Cadillac's sales unexpectedly went up, with Escalade (GM sell it there?) and CTS doing good, STS and BLS a disaster. Chrysler 300 meanwhile, remains the most popular entry level luxury car (yes, Cadillac is considered entry level there). |
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 09, 2009 5:50 pm) If not, get on the incentive line early!  Regards, OW |
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 09, 2009 5:54 pm) There are just too many other better choices. That includes all BOF SUV's GM makes. The CUV's need to prove themselves and not fall apart. We will see. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 09, 2009 10:05 pm) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 09, 2009 10:29 pm) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 10, 2009 7:52 am) Nice synopsis.  Regards, OW |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 10, 2009 7:52 am) Lucerne: Fit-finish, nuff' said" http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/USAToday/access/977231411.html?dids=977231411:977231- 411&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Jan+27%2C+2006&author=James+R.+Healey&pub=USA+TODAY- &edition=&startpage=B.3&desc=Lucerne+trumps+those+annoying+Buick+prejudices If you can get ahold of the whole article, (I can't get it all) he goes on to say that the fit and finish is better than the Avalon. Maybe this is why the Avalon is DOA, and the Lucerne soldiers on.
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