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Re: Cadillac Volt [62vetteefp] by tlong
Jan 09, 2009 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 09, 2009 11:26 am)

I'm confused - are you saying that Caddy is going to have a model named Volt, or that the Chevy Volt would be used as a basis for a similar but more upscale Cadillac vehicle?
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Re: Really? [tlong] by imidazol97
Jan 09, 2009 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 09, 2009 2:50 pm)

Didn't know we were building BMWs. As far as the VW models you mentioned, a friend had a VW. Windows fell into the doors, it had a check engine light that came on for years. It spent more time at the dealer than it spent on the road during the time they owned it before trading it. Even the closer Cincinnati dealer wouldn't work on it for him. Had to drive 50 miles.
 
>No offense, but LOL. Maybe if you are used to the big land yachts.
 
Not sure why you're trying to ridicule that I thought one would be good for a third car, but if it's okay with the forum...
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Re: US Market Share Slips in 2008 [circlew] by tlong
Jan 09, 2009 (2:57 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 09, 2009 1:53 pm)

AFAIR Ford has had fairly steady market share for the last decade or so, is that correct? I think GM and Chrysler have led most of the D3 market share declines over the past 10 years.
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Re: Really? [imidazol97] by tlong
Jan 09, 2009 (3:09 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 09, 2009 2:56 pm)

As far as the VW models you mentioned, a friend had a VW. Windows fell into the doors, it had a check engine light that came on for years.
 
I was amused that you thought the HHR rode like on rails. Compared to land yachts but not to any decent handling car. It was not a comment on reliability, etc.
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Re: Cadillac Volt [tlong] by 62vetteefp
Jan 09, 2009 (3:20 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 09, 2009 2:52 pm)

The article shows a smaller Cadillac using the same eflex EV system used on the Volt. Not really new news since GM has already announced there will be a fleet of vehicles using it. Just we see a concept vehicle. I would say that by 2012 Cadillac will have an evolt based vehicle. Probably a couple more models also soon after that.
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Re: Cadillac Volt [62vetteefp] by tlong
Jan 09, 2009 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 09, 2009 3:20 pm)

It would still be great if Caddy could build a premium smaller car like the 3 series. The CTS is nice but there is room for a TSX/Jetta/older A4 sized vehicle and there are really no choices from the D3 in that segment. Something like an upgraded BTS or baby CTS.
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Re: Cadillac Volt [tlong] by 62vetteefp
Jan 09, 2009 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Jan 09, 2009 3:28 pm)

Very true. But perhaps a e-volt could be it? Lots of power. But perhaps a bit expensive for the first version.
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HHR handling like on Rails? by andres3
Jan 09, 2009 (4:09 pm)
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If the HHR handles like it's on rails, that is one train wreck ride I don't want to be on!
 
The interior materials are chrysler-esqe = horrid!
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Re: HHR handling like on Rails? [andres3] by iwant12
Jan 09, 2009 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: andres3 (Jan 09, 2009 4:09 pm)

Didn't they give high remarks for the SS version, though? As far as cornering, etc.? I hardly see any SSs on the road. See loads of LTs.
 
I agree, the interior materials are quite cheesy. Perhaps the next generation will be better, more upscale. I like the vehicle but demand a little bit more creature comforts.
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Re: Better Stay in Line! [circlew] by dave8697
Jan 09, 2009 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 09, 2009 4:51 am)

Matt Lauer questioned Gettlefinger and Wagoner side by side yesterday morning on the Today show. The joint responses were that UAW wages are already on par with the foreign companies operating in America and that the 4 yr contract was not going to be opened up. They also said that the work rules are currently optimized for corporate profitability.
 
When they compared wages, they were probably factoring things to say there was equality.
Those factors could have been bonuses at the transplants added top their wages, cost of living differences between Rpley WV and Troy Michigan, and benefits like pensions were excluded.
 
Sounds like the union is not giving another dime. They said they already gave with VEBA.

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