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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 09, 2009 4:47 am) So basically the US part of the Camaro is...we thought of it. And maybe road-tested it here. They did the actual engineering design and assembly elsewhere.
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For those that like to complain about the states offering incentives to non domestic auto makers. Michigan has just done the same for battery makers. So they are trying to entice companies back into Michigan. No different than the So States giving tax breaks to new industry. Not coincidentally, Michigan recently approved a $335 million package of tax breaks to encourage companies to build battery research and manufacturing facilities in the state http://blogs.edmunds.com/greencaradvisor/2009/01/a123-systems-seeks-18-billion-f- - ederal-loan-for-ev-battery-factories-in-us.html
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 09, 2009 6:25 am) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 09, 2009 6:25 am) Indeed if the battery company needs new space for manufacturing, we have a large plant that's relatively new in Dayton Ohio area that vacant of its GM truck assembly. We also have some Delphi facilities that would work well for manufacturing! And I'm sure Moraine, Montgomery County, and the Great State of Ohio will offer lots of incentives to help a company new to the area manufacture batteries. We have Toyota Georgetown, Isuzu/Toyota Lafayette Indiana, Honda Marysville, GM Lordstown, Honda Indiana all a short delivery trip from our I-75/I-70 Crossroads of America location!!!
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 09, 2009 7:02 am) I also read that GM and Chrysler have requested $22 billion of the alternative energy money, from the $25 billion pool. That sounds shaky to me. If they were to give a couple billion to A123, that would not leave much for alternative fuel research. Battery cars are so far in the future to replace the internal combustion engine, that it would be a mistake to dump all the resources into that pot. |
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 09, 2009 5:32 am) The design concept originated in the United States; engineering was directed by GM's global rear-wheel-drive team in Australia; validation was conducted on roads around the world and assembly will take place at GM's award-winning Oshawa facility in Canada. So basically the US part of the Camaro is...we thought of it. And maybe road-tested it here. They did the actual engineering design and assembly elsewhere. No, it is "engineering is directed" by the folks in Austrailia. I thought I mentioned that my brother, who lives here in the US, has parts on the car. Holden designed/developed the architecture for the Zetas. For the Camaro the parts that are not common with all the Zeta are designed here. The Camaro styling was done at design staff here in the US. The VLE (Vehicle Line Executive) is in Austrailia which owns all of the zetas/RWD vehicles. They "direct" the process and make decisions at a high level. Gene Stefanyshyn is the VLE (global RWD and performance cars) who moved to Austrailia to lead the team. Only one of the 5 people directly reporting to him actually lives in Austrailia. The other 5 are here. Out of the 20 other members who do not report directly to him only 3 are in Austrailia. The VLD (Vehicle Line Director) of the Camaro does work and live in the US. Wagoner CEO US Bob Lutz Global Product Development US Jonathan J Lauckner Global Program Management US Gene Stefanyshyn Vehicle Line Executive RWD and Performance AUS John Santilli Vehicle Line Director Camaro US |
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Replying to: andres3 (Jan 08, 2009 6:26 pm) I thought about the HHR, but since I defined "crappy" as in the bottom third against the competition and I only saw the PT Cruiser as similar (and that's crappy too!) I didn't include it. If you include small wagons like the small Volvo wagon, the Mazda 5, etc., then the HHR would be crappy as well. |
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 08, 2009 7:06 pm) OK, so by defining "crappy" as in the bottom third against the competition, the following is the updated list. Any others? Particularly need help with the SUVs and Trucks as I am unfamiliar. What about Buicks? What about the bigger Caddys? Gary, you said UAW made a lousy truck for you - was that one in the bottom third? Didn't somebody say that GM has about 40 nameplate models? We have 20 names on the list so far, which would be 50% if the 40 number is accurate. So for Dave's original question on which vehicles are crappy, here's the current list. Everybody feel free to agree or disagree: HHR Yukon Denali Cobalt Aveo Impala Equinox G3 G6 Solstice (but looks good) Sky (but looks good) H2 (I'll add this one and the next one) H3 Astra G5 Aura Torrent Colorado Sierra Vibe Trailblazer |
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GM Unable to Find a Buyer for Saab (Straightline) GM Denies Problems In Finding Saab Buyers (CNN) |
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HHR - I like it better than the PT Cruiser. The HHR at least resembles an old Chevy. The PT Cruiser reminds me more of a 1937 Ford than any past Mopar product, Aveo - My Mom has one and has no problems with it. Impala - What the heck is wrong with the Impala? Aura - isn't this the Saturn clone of the excellent Malibu? Vibe - Isn't this a Toyota Matrix in disguise? Trailblazer - Dead |
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